I'll take this on for review. I'm always surprised by just how well-researched the articles on the chief mousers are, so I'm happy to have a look at this one. --
Grnrchst (
talk) 15:04, 12 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Notes
Lead
"Sometimes referred to in the press as Joey or Toby" So we have four different names for this one cat. Are we sure that "Munich Mouser" is the
common name and that "Bob" is his given name? Why did some in the press refer to him by these other names?
Pretty sure that "Munich Mouser" is the common name, but I've made a redirect from
Bob (cat) anyway.
Do we not have any images of Bob to use in the article?
Not that I've found from the newspapers, no. Given that he was apparently photographed quite a bit in September 1938, I'm a bit annoyed that none in the press decided to publish any images, but I suppose they were costly and finicky in the 30s.
Think there could be another sentence about his reputation with the press.
"the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporting that he could trace his lineage back to the cat of Thomas Wolsey." Good that this is attributed as it's quite the claim.
It is, and, I suspect, false (but a good detail).
"owing to his role as a civil servant, he received a salary" I'm assuming "his" and "he" refers to the cat, not to Chamberlain? Might need clarifying.
Done.
"the daughter of Charles II" Here the link in "daughter" might be considered an
easter egg link. Consider being more explicit.
Done by including "the" in the link so it doesn't look like a generic link to
Daughter.
" Winston Churchill "rather scathing[ly]" nicknamed Bob Munich Mouser due to the agreement signed by Chamberlain and the chancellor and Führer of Germany, Adolf Hitler, in Munich, Bavaria" This is quite long. Consider removing "in Munich, Bavaria" and using the more explicit "Munich agreement". Also consider trimming "chancellor", as by this point, Hitler had combined the roles of chancellor and head of state.
Done both.
"After his death, it was speculated that during the talks Munich agreed more with Chamberlain than with the Nazis" This is referring to the cat?
Yep. Maybe a bit ridiculous, but that's the tone used on these mouser articles; the whole concept of "cats with jobs" is ridiculous.
Under Winston Churchill
"the two were reported to have a decent relationship" The two being Munich and Churchill or Munich and Nelson?
Clarified.
"The Daily Telegraph instead reported that Munich had been "chased out of Downing Street"" Any reason why?
Made it explicit that the Telegraph was wrong.
Death
Side comment: Damn these papers hated this cat, what the hell.
Think it's to do with their perception of Chamberlain, which coloured their view of Munich. The cat really was described as a traitor; you'd've thought that he was the one who invaded Poland or something.
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Chamberlain and Churchill are relevant, but curiously there's no image of Munich himself. Alt text has been provided for the images.
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
I'm holding for now, as I have some comments that should be addressed. I don't think there's any major issues here and my comments should be easily addressed. Overall this is a very well put-together article. Fantastic work researching this cat. --
Grnrchst (
talk) 15:04, 12 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Grnrchst - I believe all of your comments are addressed now. Cheers for the review,
Tim O'Doherty (
talk) 16:49, 12 September 2023 (UTC)reply
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Tim O'Doherty: Ok, thanks for looking at all of this! All of my issues have been thoroughly addressed and I'm happy to pass this now. Excellent work once again! --
Grnrchst (
talk) 17:11, 12 September 2023 (UTC)reply