![]() | This page is not a forum for general discussion about Mohammed bin Salman. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Mohammed bin Salman at the Reference desk. |
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Mohammed bin Salman article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives:
1,
2,
3Auto-archiving period: 90 days
![]() |
![]() | The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information. |
![]() | This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
![]() | Mohammed bin Salman was nominated as a Social sciences and society good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (February 27, 2018). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
![]() | A news item involving Mohammed bin Salman was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on the following dates: | ![]() |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | The
Wikimedia Foundation's
Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see
WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see
WP:COIRESPONSE. Edits made by the below user(s) were last checked for neutrality on 18-10-2018 by Snow_Rise.
|
![]() | Text has been copied to or from this article; see the list below. The source pages now serve to
provide attribution for the content in the destination pages and must not be deleted as long as the copies exist. For attribution and to access older versions of the copied text, please see the history links below.
|
![]() |
Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but
graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at
pageviews.wmcloud.org |
Why is he being referred to as "bin Salman". "Salman" is his father's name in Arabic naming conventions. "Bin Salman" is not his surname, "Bin" simply means "son of..."
Can it be edited to just "Mohammed"?
The first thing you’re greeted with seems to be a vent off by what I’d assume to be the “western narration” of Mohammed bin Salman. Instead of mentioning significant economic and political reforms, the article rather pushes for conspiracy theories regarding the Khashojji killing, and “feminist torture”. Referring to the Saudi-Houthi conflict as the “Saudi bombing campaign” and how Saudi Arabia isn’t democratic. All these claims being citation-free is the cherry on top. 5.41.252.229 ( talk) 02:38, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
@ Nomoskedasticity: I ask for non western citations if this isn’t nothing but a western narration. All of these claims have been equally challenged and refuted, effectively making them conflictual. SwairIsRight ( talk) 04:16, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
I see this long paragraph in the Personal life section. It seems to suffer from a lack of WP:Verifiability to me. Since it is a back and forth both ways, I feel like the whole paragraph should just be removed. WP articles should focus on verifiable claims and not engage in debates. Especially when it is about such a trivial topic of whether he owns a specific painting or not (however expensive). Please respond here if you object to the removal). Ashmoo ( talk) 13:42, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
In 2018, he was ranked by Forbes as the eighth most powerful person in the world,[308] with a personal wealth of at least $25 billion.[309]
In 2018, Mohammed's personal net worth was estimated at US$3.0 billion.[324]
I came to this page having read the Neom article. I can see there are competing views about the subject; I have no strong opinion either way. I simply note that the lead is very long and the content after the second paragraph would seem better suited to the main body. If there are no comments here, I will edit in due course. All the best, Emmentalist ( talk) 22:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Following my comment above, and having waited for other comments, I have started editing this article. I have edited only the lead so far. I have made little edits and one bigger one in order to strike a balance between ease of reading and the avoidance of it becoming too cumbersome. I've made a few grammar and style changes, and been quite bold with some of the content. I've removed relevant content which is included in the main body and left some indicative comment in the lead. I intend to use a little of the content I've removed in the main body in my next edits. Can I ask other editors to be parsimonious with each individual edit and to discuss here too? The subject of this article is potentially contentious I appreciate how important it is to reach conclusions around edits on the basis of constructive consensus. All the best, Emmentalist ( talk) 11:28, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ Thenightaway:, I noticed you reverted my edits. I want to discuss why you did so and what we could do about it to reach consensus. You deleted the 2024 IMF reports comments regarding Saudi Arabia's progress to diversify the economy in turn for an older report thats states it's still dependent on oil. Furthermore, if something is going to have to be "too in-the-weeds" in order to be neutral, it shouldn't be in the intro in the first place. I recommend that we mention that the 2024 IMF report states that there's been significant progress to diversify the economy and that older reports state that Saudi Arabia was or is oil dependent., I noticed you reverted my edits. I want to discuss why you did so and what we could do about it to reach consensus. You deleted the 2024 IMF reports comments regarding Saudi Arabia's progress to diversify the economy in turn for an older report thats states it's still dependent on oil. Furthermore, if something is going to have to be "too in-the-weeds" in order to be neutral, it shouldn't be in the intro in the first place. I recommend that we mention that the 2024 IMF report states that there's been significant progress to diversify the economy and that older reports state that Saudi Arabia was or is oil dependent. DrunkenBedouin ( talk) 22:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)