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Guys - let's try and avoid party politics. No prime minister in the history of Iran was democratically elected. The Shah appointed him. A parliament made up of members appointed by the King approved the appointment. It is AT BEST misleading to call him a democratically elected official. By doing so you have to call every PM of the SHah democratically appointed. THis is false. According to the 1906 constitution of Iran, the PM is appointed by the Shah and only the Shah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.79.165.2 ( talk) 14:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
"democratically elected" is the same thing that we say about the British prime minister : elected by parliament . But why we don't say that about Hoveyda , because the other parliaments was not real . -- Alborz Fallah ( talk) 16:20, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I agree. Mossadegh came to power like all the PMs before and after him. So either all were democratically elected or none. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.157.216.65 ( talk) 12:31, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Mr Alborz Fallah said that Mosadegh was a democratically elected prime minister because we do the same for British ministers and we don't call the ministers after the coup because those Majleses were not real. But I think there is still a big problem: exactly the same majles which elected Mosadegh first, elected Razmara and Ala. And the next Majles which elected mosadegh again, elected Ghavam. Although we can say we don't have real Majles after coup but we have 10 long years before Mosadegh that the Majleses was as real as 16th and 17th Majles and did the same for several ministers from 1941 to 1951. So We have to add this confusing democratically elected to all those people that I don't recommend and we can simply remove this for Mosadegh. Mosadegh was a Patriot and did some good jobs for his country but because of the political system of the era, we can call him democratically elected like the Britain with that long tradition of democracy. We have never had that in Iran and even Mosadegh himself did not believe in those Parliaments. Even the most free ones like 4th, 5th, 6th, 14th, 16th and 17th. Mosadegh have serious problems with these Majleses. He believed in People of streets and once call the streets the real Parliament and named the parliament a place of thieves! I think if we refer to Mosadegh himself we can't call that system democratic and call that process democratically elected and if we do that that's fair enough to call General Ramzara the greatest enemy of Mosadegh, democratically elected too. Ahmadi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.81.194.226 ( talk) 08:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
I am going to delete that democratically elected line for two reasons. One it applies a popular election was held and that did not happen. Two while it cites 3 RS none of those are actually checkable so we don't know what they really say about it. While you could argue a parliamentary vote approving an appointment IS part of a democratic system, it is obvious in this case the word is being used to imply something other than factual. The issue does need expanding but for now removal is probably best. Batvette ( talk) 00:55, 8 November 2016 (UTC) Batvette ( talk) 00:55, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Seems to me that the consensus of this discussion is that there is a problem with calling him democratically elected. As for sourced material can you provide any actual quotations from those sources? Batvette ( talk) 11:34, 13 November 2016 (UTC) Batvette ( talk) 11:34, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Anybody else here read Arabic? مصدق is "Musaddiq" or another spelling, like Mosaddeq. Either way, it's not "Mosaddegh." That is definitely not the letter "qaf" in Arabic. The name definitely ends with a Q. Let us change the name to be more correct. 99.156.160.153 ( talk) 22:47, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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To improve the article, several points were added and sources were right. M1nhm ( talk) 17:15, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
"Until 1935; the Anglo-Persian Oil co had the exclusive rights to Iranian oil. in 1914, the British government controlled 51% of its shares and became a major shareholder. after converting fuel Britain's ships to oil, oil corporation was vital to British national security. Even finally paid Iran only 16% of its profits and often far less. And the company’s Huge profits To compensate for Britain’s budget deficit. For paid taxes at home by company Iranian government got less money from the AIOC. Not surprisingly that Iranians are asking for more share.[50]"
This is not readable. Unfortunately, as a result, I'm not able to help resolve it. There seems to be some POV in here (while it's probably true that Iran seeking a larger share is unsurprising, that doesn't strike me as NPOV). It does read as the writing of someone more familiar with a syntax other than English, so I can appreciate that, but this needs serious work to fit in here. I can follow most of the first few sentences, but the discussion of profits and taxes at the end is very muddled. I get the gist of it (Britain took advantage of the company while it had control, and left Iran in the lurch), but it's light on sourcing, heavy on POV, and very, very difficult to read. FangsFirst ( talk) 20:42, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
This article seems to have been written from a British point of view based on sentences like "pushing him to seize what the British had built for Iran" and "Mosaddegh tried to justify his nationalization policy by claiming Iran was 'the rightful owner...'" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.90.111.115 ( talk) 05:47, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
This sentence makes no sense :
The domination of US over Iran was reminiscent of the access cancellation of Soviet to Persian Gulf. 78.151.202.29 ( talk) 01:34, 15 March 2019 (UTC)