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had section about opposition from other ayatollahs that could not be verified by neutral reader as source is non english. This isn't an Arabic encyclopaedia therefore should be removed. Huge potential to mislead.
btw many of the translations of fatwa's that I have obtained it is evident they do not mention the subject of the article by name, and highly are misleading by there nature.
Also nature of the oppostion is not described and therefore added no value to the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.20.135.185 ( talk) 08:21, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Here the number of people killed in the 1985 car bomb is stated as 80; in the entry for Elie Hobeika it is stated as "more than 45". Can anyone who feels confident about their sources reconcile these articles? -- Dcaron 12:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
"Fadlallah published a minor periodical, and went to Lebanon in 1952." If it was a periodical then it was published more than once. I suggest that this be changed to "Fadlallah began publishing a minor periodical..." but I am not sure of the accuracy of the statment after the change. Does anyone know? -- Apolloourson 20:23, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Ruthfulbarbarity 23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
First of all there is a nation of Palestine, there is not however a state of Palestine, a nation is a group of people that identify with each other and want some degree of independance i.e. the Cherokee nation. The Cherokee like the Palestinians do not have a country however they are a nation.
Secondly the assissnation of Fadlallah is not speculative According to a Frontline interview of Jim Hougan CIA supported opperatives (though not under the control of the CIA) planted a massive car bomb timed for when worshippers would be leaving a Beirut Mosque associated with Fadlallah. The bomb exploded and killed 80 and wounded 200 as a responce to the Beruit Marine barracks bombings which Fadlallah was supposedly involved in though he denies this. The CIA also viewed Fadlallah as troublesome and wanted him dead.
Second terrorist is a very partisan and charged word if you are going to pull the "egregiously partisan" do not turn around and use egregiously partisan terms. Often depending on who the group is various individuals will define them as both terrorist and Freedom fighter. Examples American Revolutionary solidiers, British Terrorists/Americans Freedom fighters Italian revolutionary solidiers Austrians terrorist/Italians freedom fighters as is the case with a lot of Muslim armed groups many Arabs view these people as freedom fighters fighting against Secular Arabs dicatatorships, Israel and the US. While Israel, Secular Arabs dictatorships, and the US label these people terrorists. Militants is the best term to avoid partisanship. Bored college student 21:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
-- -- -- What has the word Martyr to in a supposed objective article ????? This article is Pro-Shia and lacking all kind of objectivity. - - -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.62.52.47 ( talk) 07:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Aside from the overly biased and fawning nature of this entire article, failing to mention his clearly established and well-known ties to terrorist groups like Hezbollah is ridiculous. Tell the whole story or don't tell it at all. You can start with the 1983 massacre of Marines at Beirut's airport. Unklscrufy ( talk) 20:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
This chapter in the page cites only one book for all it's numerous claims. I suggest this is removed, unless those references are scanned or become accessible for someone to verify the quotes attributed to Fadlallah. This entire section is biased and written by someone out to smear his good name. Kinkydoc22 ( talk)
I too agree. I actually went looking for the sources and they don't exist! Besides, the statements provided contradict the ones on his official website. Why have these not been removed? —Preceding
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His Arabic name translation was removed here: [1] -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 12:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
"Here he met his long time friend, and fellow terrorist William Lewis. William Lewis was born a simple goat herder in the southern province but moved to Najaf in 1972. He tragically died in a fatal goat accident twelve years later." Is this vandalism? Someone ought to remove such rubbish. ( 82.15.59.115 ( talk) 14:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC))
Removed it, like i said this page needs some seriuos monitoring, its becoming the target of many vandals
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This sentence in the introduction need clarification: why was him the target ? who attacked him, on which issue ? 122.117.35.27 ( talk) 17:47, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
an edit-war seems to be going on with a facebook link and its relevancy. Relevant or not, Facebook never qualifies as a WP:RS. Who wrote this? What is its verifiability? If its from another source, then that source can be listed. Lihaas ( talk) 06:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
The second quotation in Views/US foreign policy (After the tragic...) doesn't make sense. It seems truncated. Source is behind a paywall.-- 92.78.102.204 ( talk) 19:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
How notable is the tribute in the external link as an external link? Can it not be somehow added into the article. If the person is notable that is. Lihaas ( talk) 20:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Lihaas, please explain why you keep removing the word Holocaust from the subsection entitled "Israel and the Holocaust". Fadlallah's engagement in Holocaust denial is an important aspect of this section. If your motivation is that you want his views on the Holocaust to be separated from his views on Israel, that's fine, I have no problem with moving the Holocaust denying quote to a separate subsection. I'd also like to know why you insist on belittling factual material from the New York Times by calling them "claims". You are continually violating WP:CLAIM, and I don't understand why. Has the NYT report been disputed? If not, why are you casting doubt on it? 72.130.181.15 ( talk) 02:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Insisting on direct quotes is setting the bar pretty high. The New York Times has oversight; what NYT reporters write is generally considered reliable as a source by Wikipedia. Referring to reporters' statements as "claims" tends to belittle the source, something that WP:CLAIM cautions against. To temper my remarks a bit, consider the following from a July 10 article about Fadlallah by Jonathan Spyer, published in the Jerusalem Post: In mourning his passing, Hizbullah spokesmen stressed his support for the destruction of the “Zionist entity.” I would hesitate to use such a quote because the bias of the source could be called into question. Now, on the subject of Fadlallah's dying wish, you got the story almost right. According to Reuters, Fadlallah's wish was communicated to the reporters by a doctor (not a nurse). You are correct that the story would have greater credibility had Fadlallah communicated his wish directly to the reporters. After all, the doctor could have made the whole thing up. Nevertheless, the Reuters story had sufficient credibility that it was picked up by the Arab Press as well as by many of the top newspapers in the world, including the NYT and the Guardian. I think it would be fair to write the following on the Wikipedia page: A doctor at the Bahman hospital ... said that when a nurse asked the cleric what he needed, he replied: "For the Zionist entity to cease to exist. " This makes it clear that the evidence is hearsay (something I'd neglected to make clear before). Of course, the evidence is inadmissible if you want to treat Wikipedia like a court of law, in which case I won't press the point, since it's not that important. 72.130.181.15 ( talk) 09:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Two months ago, I hope I'm not expected to follow my own train of thoughts. Anyway, seems fine, lets give it a rest. -- Muhandes ( talk) 11:22, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
The "Holocaust" section says: "They say there were six million Jews – not six million, not three million, or anything like that" it doesn#t make sense: First he says six million and than "not six million" ????? By the way the source is not valid.-- 93.129.77.133 ( talk) 19:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the title and the lead match? Either switch with Muhammad Hussein Fadl-Allāh or use Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah in the lead? -- Muhandes ( talk) 10:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
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