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Hadid's claim that his family lost their home in Safed seems complicated by the fact that he is from Nazareth, which is still an Arab city. I also am not aware of Polish Jewish refugees in Safed.
This article casts doubt on his claims.
This profile presents a different account and doesn't mention any such Jewish family. I've added text to attribute this story to an Instagram post he made, in the meantime.
Zanahary (
talk)
02:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)reply
There are clear discrepancies in MH's family story that have yet to be properly looked into (I am still perplexed as to how his 1980s story of his family leaving of their own accord out of a desire to not live under Israelis transformed into a 2015 tale of being kicked out by Jewish refugees who locked them out of their own house). I'm sure time will tell.
I have two major issues with the quote as is stands in the second paragraph on "personal life"
1) the quote is attributed to Hadid's self published Instagram reel, but cites Mondoweiss. I believe the citation should be to his self published source which is the primary source, and which does not imply editorial review or fact checking
2) Reasonable critisism should be added (e.g. "MH was born after the family left Safed", or "This description does not fit with any historical facts about Muslim and Jew interactions at that time")
My mom. And not in the meme sense. My mom was born 1940 in Safed, her father lived there all his life, and my uncle still lives there. No Jewish holocaust refugees lived in Safed 45-48.
Muslims preformed a massacre on the Jew in 1929. Muslims initiated civil war in 47 with a pogrom on the Jewish minority. They later evacuated on the order of their leader. Palmach garrison was 12 men with one mortar (
Davidka).
That’s all quite interesting! Unfortunately, we can’t cite undocumented testimony as a primary source, nor can we synthesize unrelatedly published documents of history to present readers with an original analysis of any narrative’s comparative historicity—we have to follow reliable secondary sources. The best we have is MondoWeiss, which is not good. Maybe there’s a discussion to be had about removing the story altogether.
As for removing the MW source, this argument would have us remove every secondary report from Wikipedia. There is no reason to do so. ꧁Zanahary꧂18:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)reply
"Born"
Why does it say in the "Born" category in the table "
Nazareth (now
Israel)" if when he was born it was already part of Israel*??
See
Talk:Mohamed Hadid/Archives/2018#Request_for_comment. I think that if we can’t say it was Mandatory Palestine (or anything else), then it was Israel, and the “now” parenthetical makes no sense without an implied “then”. That consensus is six years old, so if you want to initiate a discussion, read through that RfC and comment here responding to the arguments you read for the current infobox text. ꧁Zanahary꧂16:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)reply