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Yes, it is because of
WP:SELFSOURCE. As far as I know, there are no reliable sources for the player count. There may be, but they might be very outdated. Tell me if you know of any. — MeloforsTC01:58, 25 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Makes sense tbh. In the 2b article itself, it's got an "according to the server owner". Wouldn't really make sense here. It's at times like this that I ponder on the fact that all of those numbers are technically according to their server owners, it's just that some secondary sources have copied the numbers.
Leijurv (
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18:31, 25 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Is there even a way to confirm player counts of everyone who ever joined a server without some kind of assistance from the owners? Doubt it. Regardless, it's a shame.
5aturnius (
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15:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Consensus on
Minecraft seems to be to call Hypixel "one of" the most popular, while this article just says THE most popular. I'm not quite sure that consensus like that would directly transfer between articles, but might as well bring these two articles into alignment? idk. @
Hellknowz:@
Melofors:Leijurv (
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21:38, 26 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Only Variety article says anything about being popular and it says "one of the", so that's (the only thing) what we can say. I imagine this article has taken slight liberties about
WP:V versus
WP:TRUTH. I suppose Melofors should be a little more careful citing material. —
HELLKNOWZ ▎
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Support. Never really paid attention to it before, but there is no actual reason for it to be plural when this discusses the topic/concept of a "Minecraft server" in singular, like every other article on Wikipedia. There is nothing particular about this topic to be considered a group of something. —
HELLKNOWZ ▎
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The exception about "groups/classes" can be summed up like this: in running text, would you use the word "the" before the title? ("The Florida Keys", "The rivers of New Zealand"?) If not, it's definitely not going to fall under that exception. SupportRedSlash22:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Would a page dedicated to a specific popular server e.g Hermitcraft, Hypixel,etc. be notable enough to deserve their own pages? Thanks.
Frogface08 (
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11:11, 1 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Has there been enough significant coverage of those servers to be considered for their own page? Hermitcraft, for example, has had a considerable impact, but I can't find any independent articles discussing the server. Separately, I'd like to split the notable servers section into Public servers and Private servers. Currently, the list contains only public servers.
Marsp (
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17:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Is Build the Earth considered a notable server?
Build the Earth exists on Wikipedia. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
178.135.0.22 (
talk) 04:59, April 12, 2021 (UTC)
The table lists servers that have articles on Wikipedia, and all of them should pass
WP:GNG. If you have concerns about their notability, you should bring it up at the corresponding article's talk page.
SWinxy (
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19:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Shortening descriptions
About
my recent edit: it is a follow up to
this edit in which I converted the list into a table. The list was getting massive and I knew it would only get bigger, since there are probably dozens of servers mentioned in the media, which would be way too many sections. It looked like a bunch of separate articles for each server. When I converted it to a table, though, I put those massive paragraphs into the "notes" column, which also looked ugly. It should really just be a short 1–3 sentence description for each server. I'm leaving this here in case anybody opposes these changes. — MeloforsTC22:46, 1 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I support this change. Any information previously there should instead be either in their respective article or condensed in the notes, if not removed entirely.
SWinxy (
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03:52, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply
There is a server constantly running since 15 October 2010 that is not included in the list of notable servers.
It’s called “The Shire”. For the first few months it moved between various hosts and changed IPs, then they got a domain play.shirecraft.us that is still in use today. Still using the same map from 15 Oct 2010. Various artefacts from 2010 around the spawn area, including trees from Minecraft Alpha.
I’m finding it difficult to collate evidence for an obscure Minecraft server from 11 years ago, but here’s my attempt…
I guess it depends on what you class as media. If you're asking for reputable sources from way back when it was created, you're unlikely to get that. The oldest article referenced for any server currently on the list is from 2016.
Sources should pass the standards of
WP:RS, such as those at
WP:VG/RS. Unilad accepts anyone's contributions and their acceptance criteria are unknown, so it is more than likely an unreliable source in itself. So you would have to instead show that the author is reliable as a
self-published source - an expert in their field with significant publication history. But the content itself also doesn't really say much, doesn't list any dates or sources. "Here's a link, how cool is that" is the typical churnalism that we try to avoid. Honestly, 5 minutes of research would yield more content about that server than that article. In the end, I don't see how this is an acceptable source. —
HELLKNOWZ∣TALK00:09, 4 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you for your response
Gamestar is in the list of platform-specific reliable sources -
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources#Platform-specific, and the server has an article on Gamestar; granted it is not full of content, although it does link off to a photo album, but few of the references currently in use on this page appear to reference specific dates.
A video by "TheMisterEpic" is already used a reference on this page, and the server I am proposing to add is featured in one of their videos too. It's also been featured in videos by "Gameranx".
The server has a bunch of albums uploaded to imgur over the years which are timestamped.
I agree with you that the sources are not great. It seems a shame to have a piece of Minecraft history unacknowledged, alongside the other oldest communities that are still running.
Do you have any suggestions for where to go from here please?
Minehut is a notable Minecraft server for two reasons. Firstly, it's the second most popular Java server.[1] Secondly, its more than just a server, it has a content marketplace, forums, and free server hosting, making it more of an ecosystem than just a server.[2] The fact that it is a collection of other people's servers is a unique quirk that makes it perfect for this list. Here is a minute sampling of their media coverage (the have 15k backlinks according to Ahrefs):
Since this article already goes into the backend of running a Minecraft server (proxy, etc), it might be worth mentioning transfer packets.[1] Since this article already mentions the EULA, it might be worth mentioning the fact that many notable Minecraft servers have pay-to-win PVP elements.[2][3][4][5] At this time, there doesn't seem to be any good sources to cite, but should any arise, maybe these should be mentioned in a sentence each.
User1042 (
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11:26, 23 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I agree. Even if certain qualms about revelancy may be imposed, this is an aspect of minecraft server culture that Mojang have deliberately ignored even though, it's supposed to be outright illegal or not allowed.
5aturnius (
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15:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)reply
This section was based on Wikis, Youtube videos, and a listicle on 'oldest.org' - none of these are reliable sources. Per
WP:V, this section should be removed. I have attempted to do so, but a new editor is edit warring with me, as well as adding more unreliable sources.
MrOllie (
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01:07, 18 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Novylen, is one of the oldest Minecraft Servers in existence. It was switched on on the day that Minecraft multiplayer was released (see website, may not be correct) and the SMP map was used as a survival singleplayer map by the server owner before Minecraft multiplayer in the Infdev (possible incorrect spelling) version.
The server has always been running the SMP map.
This is the oldest Minecraft server because if you ask someone wherever a Minecraft server running an old map or a Minecraft server running a new map switched on at around the same time, 9/10 people will say old map.