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I think that Midgar is important enough in the context of the Final Fantasy series to deserve its own entry; there are entries for Mako Energy and the Sister Ray. There are also a whole bunch of links to a 'Midgar' article; the brief description on the 'Places in FF7' page doesn't do the topic justice, IMHO.
The long and short of what I'm saying here is that Wikipedia looks like a Final Fantasy fansite. Cloud's page looks like a biography, Advent Children's looks like the reports that came out of Venice when the film was first screened there, just yesterday I had to merge Ultima Weapon with Weapons, and then we've got a plethora of unnecessary random pages.
Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy X are the worst about the whole thing. Head over to the Final Fantasy X Talk Page to see what I'm talking about in regards to it.
Final Fantasy VII's problem is that some pages are down right unnecessary. Until recently, there was even a page for the damn Sister Ray. Here's what needs to be addressed:
This is what I propose:
There's no reason for all this stuff to be scattered across Wikipedia when it can conveniently and reasonably fit on shared pages. Thoughts? (Please direct all comments on this matter to the
Final Fantasy VII Talk Page)
Ryu Kaze
09:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, as I said over on the Final Fantasy VII Talk Page, my main gripe with Midgar having its own article is that 1) it's not really necessary, 2) I don't see how Midgar warrants its own page more than say, Esthar, Alexandria, or Bevelle, 3) it's just an invitation for fancruft references to Metropolis, Akira's Neo-Tokyo, and who knows what else, and 4) it's just an invitation for there to be articles made on everything from Conde Petie to Gongaga, and we can definitely do without that. Think about it in this light and get back to me.
Let me know if you have any other suggestions. Also, let's try to keep all the discussion on the FFVII Talk Page if possible, because it's a bit much to spread it around. Ryu Kaze 20:30, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I made it a point to preserve the relevant information. Glad you like it, despite a couple of things. As for the monitor issue, I'm not sure... my monitor's a 600x800 set at a 1280x1024 resolution, and it doesn't appear awkward, so I'm not sure what kind of effect it's giving people with a monitor that itself is at 1280x1024. I'll take a look at it, nonetheless. Ryu Kaze 02:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Alright, now I've got it to where it looks perfect on my screen. I hope it'll be the same on yours. Basically, the Midgar info is to the right of the table of contents, and below the Midgar info are the Midgar screenshots. I've got them set up now to where they don't run off the page or into one another. Then, below those -- and still to the right of the table of contents -- is most of the Kalm section, including the Kalm screenshot. As it is, it looks great. I hope that it'll be the same on yours. Ryu Kaze 02:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: The issue has been settled. The Midgar page will remain. Head over to the List of Final Fantasy VII Locations Talk Page for more details. Ryu Kaze 12:59, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I think the first sentence in the History section is incorrect. Midgar was never a collection of smaller towns. When Jesse is describing Midgar to Cloud on the train, she mentions that "each town used to have a name, but now they all go by numbered sectors. That's just the kind of place this is." I'm paraphrasing there, but I think that simply means the SECTORS used to have names. Not that there used to be smaller towns that came together to become Midgar. Midgar seems to be an independent project (Sector 6 is incomplete, even) and I doubt it was ever a small collection of towns. Nothing else seems to point to this in the game and the original author seems to be using Jesse's dialogue to assume there used to be smaller towns. I didn't want to just change that without an explination, however. So, what do the rest of you think?
Should there be an additional section about the underground facility beneath the Shinra Building shown in Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII? It is canon, after all and technically a part of Midgar overall. There's even a reactor down there that ties in with the above-ground reactors.
I gave this article the best rating I can (and want to) give: B. To make it better, I suggest more pictures, better sections (the stub-like sections on locations are awful. Make it a short summary and move the rest to a list) and more encyclopaedic content like criticism, reviews, how it fits into the world, and generally everything you can't find in the game's manual. How does it use the Norse mythology its name comes from? -- User:Krator ( t c) 19:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Seriously, this thing has just been sitting here, with no one contributing or updating it at all. Do I have to redraft the entire thing, because if no one steps up to it, I'll be more than happy to. Deepground definately deserves a mention here, along with the sectors, and other bits of info the reviewer of this article stated it needed to be a good article. Where's everyone here? -_- 66.76.60.163 04:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)Makoeyes987