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I might be wrong, but I assume that the term 'Paleoconservative' is a pejorative term that would not be used by the people it refers to. In that case, would using the term (unless specifically attributed to critics or Peroutka) be NPOV?
"Peroutka was also endorsed by the
League of The South, a neo-confederate group who has been listed by the
Southern Poverty Law Center as a
racist organization." ..... what's the source for this??? —
akghetto (
talk)
04:07, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
"Peroutka was also endorsed by the League of The South, a neo-confederate group who has been listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a racist organization."
I feel that it's very misleading. Also those civil rights groups obviously have agendas and frankly I dont give them much credibility. This sentence if very one sided. Can we please discuss a more balanced alternative?
JJstroker 19:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
While the SPLC can sometimes be seen as agenda-driven, I feel that, in this case, they are not off-base. The League of the South is far from a historical society; With quotes such as "As a means of making real our vision of a Southern Republic, we must first revitalize our largely Anglo-Celtic culture." [
[1]] and "It is The League of the South's assertion that the system of fiat currency, fractional reserve banking, unfair trade agreements, outsourcing of jobs, and confiscatory taxation imposed by the American Empire have reduced considerably the Southern people's standard of living." [
[2]] show that this organization is in fact a racially driven separatist movement. All in all, I find the SPLC to be very accurate when it states that "while the league of the south maintains it is not a racist organization, the evidence shows otherwise" [
[3]]
How is complaining about a "system of fiat currency, fractional reserve banking, unfair trade agreements, outsourcing of jobs, and confiscatory taxation" racist? 69.118.97.26 17:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh, one last quote for anyone who doubts league of the south's leadership view on race: "On white dominance: In his 1996 "President's Message," Hill said the South sought by the LOS is one "where the interests of the core population of Anglo-Celts is protected from the ravages of so-called multiculturalism and diversity." The "European majority," Hill adds, will accept "productive and sympathetic" people from other ethnic groups — but only "on its own terms."" [ [4]]
What would your balanced alternative show in light of this evidence, sir?
Thanks. 0146, 4 February 2006 (EST) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.124.193.87 ( talk • contribs) .
One more article from Southern Law Poverty Center [ [5]] regarding the actions of the LOS in the wake of Katrina.
Thanks. 0149, 4 February 2006 (EST) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.124.193.87 ( talk • contribs) .
The intent was not to declare peroutka to be racist. However, he was a presidential candidate for a notable party, and furthermore, he recieved the presidential nomination from an organization which has been declared racist/inflammatory (see links above) by a reliable enough source. Do you think if Bush or Kerry had recieved such a nomination at the national convention of LOS that it would not be in their wiki? Why gloss over it? Let's stick to the facts. No one was calling Peroutka racist. However, I was making it clear that he accepted the nomination of a less than desirable (to put it lightly) organization. Now, we were speaking of a compromise: What do you propose, sirs? I won't stand for a complete elimination of the facts; that would be intellectually dishonest, and against what Wiki stands for.
12:56, 5 February 2006 (UTC)~ Thanks. 0756, 5 February 2006 (EST)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.124.193.87 ( talk • contribs) .
[QUOTE]While the SPLC can sometimes be seen as agenda-driven, I feel that, in this case, they are not off-base. The League of the South is far from a historical society; With quotes such as "As a means of making real our vision of a Southern Republic, we must first revitalize our largely Anglo-Celtic culture." [ [10]] and "It is The League of the South's assertion that the system of fiat currency, fractional reserve banking, unfair trade agreements, outsourcing of jobs, and confiscatory taxation imposed by the American Empire have reduced considerably the Southern people's standard of living." [ [11]] show that this organization is in fact a racially driven separatist movement. All in all, I find the SPLC to be very accurate when it states that "while the league of the south maintains it is not a racist organization, the evidence shows otherwise" [/quote]
All of this info is clear to you when it may not be clear to others. You are operating on a personal viewpoint. Also you are getting your information from a very baised group. That would be like me saying that the ACLU ruled this way therefore its right. These groups are baised which is against wiki policy. You can't really use what they say as factual evidence or let alone a credible source.
I agree with Akghetto. But what wikipedia is used so the reader can draw their own conclusions. This sentence is a POV and very tilted towards one side. If the NAACP said that Bush was a racist administration it doesnt mean anything. They are just another group who feeds on agenda driven politics. The Law centers opinions are not credible. Who are they to determine who is racist or not? They are just another political organization with an agenda. Ultimately it comes down to personal opinion which is not allowed on wikipedia. I think the article is perfect the way it is. It doesnt say anything for or against league of the south. If you want to learn more you can go to the league of the south page and draw your own conclusions as to if they are racist or not. (Then the reader can draw their own conclusions about Peroutka) I am taking it down again but if you want to include it in the article please post an alternative that we can all agree upon and then we will add it.
JJstroker 20:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
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First of all, the opening paragraph refers to this guy as "far right". That's a loosely defined pejorative term.
Also, is it really appropriate for the opening section to list criticisms of this guy? Shouldn't the opening section simply provide a basic summary of who he is? I would think that criticisms would be listed lower down.
For instance, the opening mentions that he discussed conspiracy theories on a radio show in 2006. Should a collection of 16 year old radio appearances be considered one of his defining characteristics?
He's currently running for a state office, and this article really seems like it was written by someone with a political agenda. This looks like Democratic Party opposition research that was placed in the opening section to make it as visible as possible. This is not up to Wikipedia's standards. It makes the site look bad. Chtri001 ( talk) 17:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
I found a Photo of Peroutka I think that I would be good for the wiki page. 96.230.191.203 ( talk) 22:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)