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That's inappropriate for the main entry page; it should be here, on the "discussion" page. Anyone object to my moving it from there to here?
Narsil17:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Hearing no objection, I removed that section. Consider it duly noted though, here on the discussion page, that someone would like information to be added about US Navy and USMC messes.
Narsil23:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
The significant Navy "mess" is the Chief's Mess, with officer's belonging to the Wardroom, and enlisted using the generic mess deck. But U.S. Navy Chiefs don't like their business examined, so don't expect to see much information about the Chief's Mess.
74.107.119.250 (
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05:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Israeli Navy
"In the Israeli Navy, although Hebrew speaking, Dining rooms in the Saar 5 Missile Boats, and the kitchen in the Patrol Boats are named Messes, Crew Mess and Officer's Mess." I understand what's trying to be said, but this is pretty incoherent. Could someone with more knowledge clean it up a bit?
Makgraf09:33, 31 December 2006 (UTC)reply
In the UK Armed Forces, it is more of a bar and formal dining arrangement than a canteen. As someone who has previously served in both the Royal Navy and the Territorial Army for a number of years, this is my experience. --
Panzer71 (
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15:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Etymology
I came to this article hoping to find out why it's called a 'mess' and couldn't find anything. Can anyone find out and add an etymology section--
Jeff79 (
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10:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)reply
A lot of articles on wikipedia have an Etymology section. It's pretty normal. Dictionaries contain a word's definition. No one expects a dictionary to have an explanation of the word's history/usage.--
Jeff79 (
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05:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Hmmm the
Oxford English Dictionary does indeed provide etymology supported by quotations and it is very useful. I disagree that this would be straying too far into wiktionary. I suspect the etmology of this word is encyclopaedic but would need to be verified by reliable sources - eg the OED.--
Matildatalk05:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)reply
UK tradition: original research tag
The 'original research' tag (on the line about owing a round of drinks if you forget to remove headgear before entering a mess) doesn't seem warranted. As this is a tradition, it would be hard to find a written source for it, but that doesn't change the fact that it is common knowledge in the Navy and unlikely to be disputed by anyone, so does not require verification. Unless the person who added that tag is disputing it? It's not the interpretation or conclusion of one individual either. If no one comments on this in one month, I'll remove the tag.
Middd (
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22:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I agree. It appears to be "unwritten rule" in some British Army messes as well. It is very difficult to get written verification of this sort of thing as they tend not to be in the public domain. --
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21:59, 27 September 2009 (UTC)reply
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