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Is Meenas and gurjar are same? Prince Marmat ( talk) 10:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Basically both caste have main occupation is farming and animal husbandry. Both Meenas and gurjar are in majority in Rajasthan. Where Meenas are in Sawai Madhopur, jaipur, dausa, karauli. Where gurjar are in bilwara, jaipur, dausa,bharatpur, and near ajmer. Both caste have their active leader such that meenas have Kirodi lal Meena and gurjar have kirodi baisla. So according to many people Gurjar and Meenas are same caste. they are live like brother. Prince Marmat ( talk) 10:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Reference exists to Susawat (Susawat dynasty) Meenas. [1] Karsan Chanda ( talk) 03:53, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Dear @ RegentsPark: Ji, help me. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 03:55, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Susawat Meena [2] Karsan Chanda ( talk) 12:39, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
But a page has been created on Hindi Wikipedia for Susawat Meena. [3] --
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Meena/Mina [1] [2] [3] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 09:01, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Meena Battalion [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 07:07, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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Khogong/Khohgang [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 14:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
[2] [3] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 08:23, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Scheduled Tribes of Rajasthan Karsan Chanda ( talk) 07:21, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Meena history. [1] [2] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 10:23, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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Alan Singh. [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 13:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Can I write an article on Meena Empire? [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 08:04, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
[2] [3] [4] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 06:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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@ Bonadea: Ji, the part you have removed. What was the problem with that part? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 10:49, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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2405:205:1285:A810:4BEB:8450:1EB1:D5AC ( talk) 19:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
The historical Amber Fort was founded by Alan Singh Chanda, the ruler of the Meena dynasty. [1]
Minas. [1] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 19:13, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Meena. [2] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 06:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
@ Bonadea: What is the problem with this book? Please kindly let me know. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 06:52, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Meena [3] Karsan Chanda ( talk) 13:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
@ RegentsPark: According to this book the Meenas are the third largest tribal group in India. [4] -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 14:27, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: Is this source not reliable? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 11:35, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Meena Itiyas -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 11:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: You didn't answer me. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 12:08, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: Thanks for explaining. Karsan Chanda ( talk) 12:52, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: Can you tell me through the book " People of India: Delhi", what has been written about the Meenas in this book? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 13:11, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: I don't know english language. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 14:38, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: transliteration method. -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 15:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: Yes. Karsan Chanda ( talk) 00:43, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
@ AndyTheGrump: That's why I'm asking for your help. Karsan Chanda ( talk) 01:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
In India, the British made the Criminal Tribes Act and the local British officials of the states of India included the Meena caste in the Criminal Tribes Act.
State | Notified |
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Patiala and East Punjab States Union | Yes |
Rajasthan | Yes |
Punjab | Yes |
Maharashtra | No |
Madhaya Pradesh | No |
Delhi | No |
After the independence of India, the Act was repealed in 1949 and the Meena caste along with other castes was denotified by the Act. In 2005, the Government of India established the National Commission for Denotified, Nomadic, Semi Nomadic Tribes (NCDNST) and states included Meena caste in the DNST category as follows
State | Included in DTNST Category |
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Rajasthan | No |
Punjab | Yes |
Hariyana | Yes |
Maharashtra | No |
Madhya pradesh | No |
Delhi | Yes |
Meena caste is mainly located in the states of North India, Meena caste has been included in different categories by different states of India, the list of states is as follows -
State | Category | Entry number in the state list | entry number in the Mandal list |
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Delhi | Other backward caste | 40 | 66 |
Hariyana | Other backward caste | 62 | 57 |
Maharashtra | Other backward caste | 98 | 169 |
Rajasthan | Scheduled Tribe | 09 | - |
[Note-1. Meena caste is not included in any reserved category of Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and other states. 2.Punjab includes only DNST category.] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]
Matsya (tribe) -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 09:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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Rahul780Aa ( talk) 08:43, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Change photos of meenas Rahul780Aa ( talk) 08:43, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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remove that mina are sub group of bhill Mohnish123 ( talk) 18:41, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Sezgin, Yuksel (2011). Human Rights and Legal Pluralism. ISBN 9783643999054TG HL ↗ 🍁 19:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
यूपी में मीणा सामान्य वर्ग में शामिल है। यूपी के मेरठ, बुलंदशहर, जहांगीरपुरा, मथुरा आदि शहरों में मीणा पाए जाते है। यूपी में मीणा ठाकुर उपाधि से विभूषित है। Rahul780Aa ( talk) 08:42, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
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यूपी में मीणा सामान्य वर्ग में शामिल है। यूपी के मेरठ, बुलंदशहर, जहांगीरपुरा, मथुरा आदि शहरों में मीणा पाए जाते है। यूपी में मीणा ठाकुर उपाधि से विभूषित है
I believe the reference provided here #10 is not correctly linked. The pages number is missing. Moderators should review the citation and provide appropriate links. VediKboy ( talk) 05:14, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
An addition to the information could be in relation to Indian judges such as Former Chief Justice Y. R. Meena and Justice Ganesh Ram Meena Vaibhav Ram Kumar ( talk) 11:22, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
@ Dympies: Why do you feel it is necessary to change this? -- Karsan Chanda ( talk) 15:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
The "sub-divisions" section of the article reads :
As part of a sanskritisation process, some Bhils present themselves as Meenas, who hold a higher socio-economic status compared to the Bhil tribal people. [1]
This too implies that Bhil is a distinct community and its ritual status is somewhat lower to Meenas. Tagging Karsan Chanda. Dympies ( talk) 17:52, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
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@ Admantine123: Can you describe how its a WP:RS for this subject? How we can verify expertise of author who wrote the content on this source? Dympies ( talk) 17:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
This sentence "It used to be claimed they speak Mina language, a spurious language." has no coverage in the body of the article, which is bad WP-writing. If the sources are good, it can be moved from lead to body, or kept in lead but expanded on in the body. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:40, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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Abhishekjorwal16 ( talk) 13:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Change the image you used that Meenas are lower caste Hindu's.... Otherwise I'll take legal action on it..
Meenas and bhils are district castes. Meenas are not a lower hindu caste https://sansad.in/poi. They are descendants of Lord MahaVishnu's Matsya Avtar. Meenas were actually a ruling community ruled amer or amber kingdom and bundi before rajputs. Rajasthan education minister had already confirmed that Bundi is named on the Name of Tribal chief Bunda Meena and amer or amber was founded by Alan Singh Chanda ( Meena King ) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Fort. If you not change your article than I will take strict legal action against you under cultural and religious freedom act. Abhishekjorwal16 ( talk) 13:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
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Meena is one of the oldest castes in india. They ruled major parts of Rajasthan before Rajputs. They are mainly found in state's of Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh,Uttar Pradesh,Haryana,Punjab and Maharashtra. Mexyza ( talk) 15:52, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
Firstly, Meena And bhil Mina are two different tribes and cannot be termed as subgroup of and another. Check the official categorization here on of the state government - https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66
And reservation is based on the fact they were tribes and not that they were low caste.
https://vikaspedia.in/social-welfare/scheduled-tribes-welfare/scheduled-tribes-in-india
And you can see in this post that high-caste people can be ST and in lot of places in India Bhramins are also in ST. And meenas have back in past been ruler of Rajasthan, they are actually a warrior, farming tibe. https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-be-an-ST-and-be-a-Brahmin/answer/Saurabh-Tomar-25?ch=17&oid=51611639&share=5f3de910&srid=uy8Bx&target_type=answer
Kindly remove that photo mentioning low caste hindoos, under reservation section as caste don't play any role in getting reservation. Meenas reservation is based on tribal status. And that photo is of british era. Meenas were part of 42nd deoli regiment and also had waged war/ mutiny against the British demonic rule, so the British had no incentive of portraying them as good and therefore pointed out them as low caste hindoos. Kindly remove that picture or give proper analysis as it denigrades the image of Meena community.
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Meenas are not a lower caste. Can you change the photos and pictures of meenas Nikurggggg ( talk) 17:45, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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Can you change the picture of Meena's in this article??
And also change tha they are lower caste they ruled rajasthan before rajputs
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber, India Nikurggggg ( talk) 17:51, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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Meena and bhil are different community as you can see in link below
https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66
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Meena is a sub-group of Bhils, an ethnic group in western India. It used to be claimed they speak Mina language.
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Meena's were the ruling caste of Rajasthan, Who ruled in many regions of Rajasthan.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoh
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Fort
http://meenawiki.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi
And also there is no relation in lower and upper caste to reservation. And meenas are not a lower caste.
In caste reservation section
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Meenas, lower class of hindoos
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Meena a caste of rajasthan
http://meenawiki.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoh Nikurggggg ( talk) 18:32, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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I belong to Meena community and i saw that this article is spreading wrong information about my meena community. So tell me the procedure to delete or re-edit this page Nikurggggg ( talk) 18:54, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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Hello
My name is Rohit Meena
I belong to Meena community. I had read this whole article and I found that this article is spreading totally wrong information about my community. So please re-edit or delete this article.
I am providing some reliable sources and requesting you to re-edit or delete this article.
All the sources are reliable which I provided.
Here is the list of edits-
1. Meena is not a sub group of bhils. Meena and bhil are different community.
https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66
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Meena is a sub-group of Bhils, an ethnic group in western India.It used to be claimed they speak Mina language.
To
Meena is a ruling and warrior[ Kshtriya ] caste. They ruled many regions in Rajasthan before Rajputs.
https://indianmeena.wordpress.com/2019/12/07/main-kingdoms-of-meenas/
https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/amagarh-fort-rajasthan/print_manually
2. Meena is not a lower caste. Remove the image from reservation section that Meena's,Hindoos of lower caste. And calling Meena's hindoos of lower caste also goes against SC/ST Act 1989. https://www.indiacode.nic.in/handle/123456789/1920?sam_handle=123456789/1362
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Remove the image from Reservation section as it goes against SC/ST Act 1989.
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The Meena fall into the Scheduled Tribe category in the state of Rajasthan and the majority of them are classified as being Hindu, but in Madhya Pradesh Meena are recognised as a Scheduled Tribe only in Sironj Tehsil, Vidisha, while in the other 44 districts of the state they are categorised as Other Backward Classes.It has been proposed that the Meenas be fully recognised as a Scheduled Tribe in Madhya Pradesh. The proposal is being considered by the Government of India. In Uttar Pradesh, Meena are considered migrated from Rajasthan and have been living in western districts of Mathura, Sambhal and Budaun since many generations. At par their origin they are granted a Scheduled tribe status in the state of Uttar Pradesh. In Haryana they are classified as Other Backward Classes.In Maharashtra also Meenas come under the Other Backward Classes.
In Rajasthan, the Meena caste members oppose the entry of Gurjars into Scheduled Tribe fold, fearing that their own share of Scheduled Tribe reservation benefits will be eroded.
They celebrate Meenesh Jayanti on the third day of the Chaitra month's Shukla paksha. Rohitys ( talk) 02:46, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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Firstly, Meena And bhil Mina are two different tribes and cannot be termed as subgroup of and another. Check the official categorization here on of the state government - https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66
And reservation is based on the fact they were tribes and not that they were low caste.
https://vikaspedia.in/social-welfare/scheduled-tribes-welfare/scheduled-tribes-in-india
And you can see in this post that high-caste people can be ST and in lot of places in India Bhramins are also in ST. And meenas have back in past been ruler of Rajasthan, they are actually a warrior, farming tibe. https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-be-an-ST-and-be-a-Brahmin/answer/Saurabh-Tomar-25?ch=17&oid=51611639&share=5f3de910&srid=uy8Bx&target_type=answer
Kindly remove that photo mentioning low caste hindoos, under reservation section as caste don't play any role in getting reservation. Meenas reservation is based on tribal status. And that photo is of british era. Meenas were part of 42nd deoli regiment and also had waged war/ mutiny against the British demonic rule, so the British had no incentive of portraying them as good and therefore pointed out them as low caste hindoos. Kindly remove that picture or give proper analysis as it denigrades the image of Meena community.
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I belong to Meena community. I had read this whole article and I found that this article is spreading totally wrong information about my community. So please re-edit or delete this article.
I am providing some reliable sources and requesting you to re-edit or delete this article.
Here is the list what to edit-
1. Meena is not a sub group of bhils. Meena and bhil are different community.
https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66
Change
Meena is a sub-group of Bhils, an ethnic group in western India.It used to be claimed they speak Mina language.
To
Meena is a ruling and warrior[ Kshtriya ] caste. They ruled many regions in Rajasthan before Rajputs.
https://indianmeena.wordpress.com/2019/12/07/main-kingdoms-of-meenas/
https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/amagarh-fort-rajasthan/print_manually
2. Meena is not a lower caste. Remove the image from reservation section that Meena's,Hindoos of lower caste. And calling Meena's hindoos of lower caste also goes against SC/ST Act 1989. https://www.indiacode.nic.in/handle/123456789/1920?sam_handle=123456789/1362
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Remove the image from Reservation section as it goes against SC/ST Act 1989.
To
The Meena fall into the Scheduled Tribe category in the state of Rajasthan and the majority of them are classified as being Hindu, but in Madhya Pradesh Meena are recognised as a Scheduled Tribe only in Sironj Tehsil, Vidisha, while in the other 44 districts of the state they are categorised as Other Backward Classes.It has been proposed that the Meenas be fully recognised as a Scheduled Tribe in Madhya Pradesh. The proposal is being considered by the Government of India. In Uttar Pradesh, Meena are considered migrated from Rajasthan and have been living in western districts of Mathura, Sambhal and Budaun since many generations. At par their origin they are granted a Scheduled tribe status in the state of Uttar Pradesh. In Haryana they are classified as Other Backward Classes.In Maharashtra also Meenas come under the Other Backward Classes.
In Rajasthan, the Meena caste members oppose the entry of Gurjars into Scheduled Tribe fold, fearing that their own share of Scheduled Tribe reservation benefits will be eroded.
They celebrate Meenesh Jayanti on the third day of the Chaitra month's Shukla paksha. 152.58.185.45 ( talk) 12:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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calling meenas hindoos of lower caste voilets sc/st act 1989. https://www.indiacode.nic.in/handle/123456789/1920?sam_handle=123456789/1362
so please remove that image from reservation section. Misterherooo ( talk) 05:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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The image you are using is of bhil meenas not meenas And both community are different. https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66
Please edit
Change EMuseumPlus (2).jpg to RegiMeena.jpg
All source are reliable. Please edit Immortalgully ( talk) 06:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)