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In Igbo race in traditional African, Masquerade is an aspect of communication system that is of entertainment. In cultural festivals for example, masquerade were used to —Preceding
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16:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)reply
En regards to the Igbo; is it actually a Masquerade or some sort of Masked ritual? From what references I can find, the Igbo masks and dances are part of a religious ceremony that invokes ancestor and element worship. They're not gatherings where everyone is masked, rather the masked characters are more shamanistic in the religious regard. I don't think it should be included in the article referencing a "Ball"; which is a formalized social dance in the European context, although I do think a separate article on the Igbo and their mask rituals should be in Wikipedia; if you haven't created one already.
When You go to a masquerade ball, you have to wear BIG PUFFY dresses.With lots of ruffels. And only the colors of blue, brown, green,black, white, and yellow. AND NEVER wear shoes. this is not aloud beacuase of an old legend forom the 16th centur. —Preceding
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Keep Masquerade ball. I would have thought the types are are Masquerade ball,
Fancy dress party, and
Masked orgy, but who knows.
Masked ball (redirects here) might be better. Contrary to what the nom says, most of the content seems to relate to things that could reasonably be called balls. There is a stronger case for the Cross dressing party perhaps - not sure about that.
Johnbod (
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17:09, 16 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Is this necessarily a case where
WP:COMMONNAME determines? Per
WP:NOTFINISHED, may we establish that the scope of this article is not confined to balls? Even if most masquerade parties are (or are referred to as) masquerade balls, can we establish that not all are? The scope "ball" is a arguably an under topic of "party". We have plenty of articles where common name may be put aside in order to cater to a slightly more extensive scope, don't we? Consider the solution in this article as seen in
Template:Parties.
PPEMES (
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17:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. This is about a particular historical type of event that was primarily courtly or aristocratic. “Masquerade party” is not what you would call it - anything under that that name would be relatively modern and could be covered by
Costume party.
DeCausa (
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19:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Do we have sources that backup the assertion that all masquerade parties in world history until now were solely balls (or were named as such)?
PPEMES (
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19:05, 17 February 2020 (UTC)reply
The point I'm trying to convey is that while all masquerade balls where masquerade parties, how can we be sure that all historical, present and future masquerade parties should be designated balls? Hence my scope and title concern.
PPEMES (
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19:14, 17 February 2020 (UTC)reply
You’re coming at this from the wrong direction. There’s an article needed about courtly or aristocratic masked “balls” with their origins in the late Middle Ages/Renaissance. They don’t exist now. There’s also an article needed about modern fancy dress parties. They’re not the same thing although the latter may be a descendant of the other and some may be intentionally referential of the other. But they are two different things. One can argue about what those two different articles can be called (that’s just the sort of thing everyone loves to argue about on WP) but ultimately the point is there are two different topics.
DeCausa (
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19:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)reply
We have
ball (dance party). Some accidental properties can be attributed to a ball, many of which are shared with other
parties. For instance we have masquerade balls - historical and contemporary - which indeed merit a text section there. Isn't the notion "masquerade ball" essentially a ball, and accidentally a masquerade? Then why should that accidental property not be dealt with an article scope which covers not only balls but also other parties where that accidental property indeed manifests? Why should the accidental masquerade property be afforded its specific article, when that accidental property - which indeed applies to different kinds of parties - could have its own article in
masquerade party (or "Masquerade party" as a section in
costume party)? Please refer to
Template:Parties for an illustration of the taxonomy issue I am trying to convey.
PPEMES (
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09:09, 19 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose for the same reason as Chaheel Riens. The article
Cross dressing ball is mainly a phenomenon of the 19th and beginnings of the 20th century, and had a certain grandeur the word "party" does not convey. We are mostly talking about "A dance hall of a larger style, with an extremely elegant audience. Tuxedos and tailcoats, and full evening dresses", where the public went to dance the evening away. --
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08:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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