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I changed "She is an expert on" to "Her research interests include" (that's what http://www.claymath.org/fas/research_fellows/Mirzakhani/ says). She may be an expert on what her dissertation was about, but we'll need sources to say she's an expert on the other topics. -- Ishi Gustaedr 00:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
What is her ethnicity? Persian, Kurdish, Azerbaijani, etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.20.63.194 ( talk) 10:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
One author of the article had confused the Fields Medal award committee with the Fields Institute. The latter is a Canadian research institute in Ontario. It has nothing to do with the selection of
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I removed the link to the Persian women's movement because it made it seem (to me at least) that she belonged to some organization for Persian women. If she has some documented involvement in promoting Persian women, then it probably should be put back (with a reference). If it's just there because she's a Iranian woman with a Wikipedia article, well there's probably a lot of other Wikipedia articles that would qualify to have it as well. -- Ishi Gustaedr 22:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
where does she live rigth now? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.255.27.157 ( talk) 01:08, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
I removed a reference on the "Recognized locally as a brilliant teenager" line because it was from a recent USA Today article that recognizes her later work as brilliant. We are looking for some sources that touch on her early years perhaps before "she found international recognition" from the Math Olympiads. -- Ishi Gustaedr 19:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
With this edit, 81.208.106.77 ( Talk) added the {{ peacock}} tag without any indication of what part of the article is objectionable. I'll guess it is the "Recognized locally as a brilliant teenager" line (which you can see above we are looking for a source for). I've left a message here and on the user's talk page. If there is no clarification in the next few days, I'll remove the tag. -- Ishi Gustaedr ( talk) 18:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
I reordered the lead to make the prize the first element of the 2nd paragraph, as its the most important element of her notability (so far). I also added what she won the award for, which was not in the lead. I then removed the "2nd middle easterner" part, because once you get beyond firsts, its detracts from the snappiness of the prose. Two kinds of pork ( talk) 03:13, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
The article should be (semi-)protected to stop the ongoing edit war. She is an Iranian "expat" in USA. If she belongs to irans azeri/azerbeijani ethnic group, this can be mentioned, if there are CREDIBLE sources. But there is no justification for misusing Mirzakhani and the award for (the promotion of) a nationalism or an irredentism. There a conventions on wikipedia and Nelson Mandela was of course primarily a South African politician and only secondarily of Xhosa ethnicity.-- Severino ( talk) 09:52, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I added the IMU press release to External links. This PDF file is in the public domain. If it was a source and I missed it, feel free to delete. Also I added a "notable citation" template above. The wording isn't exactly right but it's okay for lack of another one. You editors did such a great job that the IMU links Mirzakhani's name from their website to this article. - SusanLesch ( talk) 18:07, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
82.8.62.228 ( talk) 18:47, 18 August 2014 (UTC) I do not understand why there is a dicussion on this point. The WikiPedia page of all Fields Medal winners mentions their nationality, why should this one not follow the same pattern? Whether you want to present yourself as a Russian or Dutch physicists is entirely your decision, but it is not up to you to choose for other people. Prof Mirzakhani is Iranian, not American: her birthplace and citizenship are both Iranian: this fact is documented in various sources, including media. The place where you live does not change your citizenship unless you request it to. Some Iranian-born scientists who work in the US have US passports and may be described as Iranian-American but it is not the case here, unless you present some source of evidence.
Moreover, as pointed out by YmBlanter, your claims are utterly incorrect: she did the first half of her studies in Iran, she won her Olympiad medal as part of the Iranian national team then studied at Sharif University in Iran for her BSc.
The lede currently says "Iranian mathematician", and my attempt to change this was reverted within ten minutes. As a matter of fact, the nationality should not play any role here. She did not work a singe day in Iran, therefore she could not be an Iranian mathematician (despite the fact that she is Iranian, and of Iranian origin). The fact that she works in the US makes her an American mathematician, and her citizenship is absolutely irrelevant here. Yes, she is an American mathematician of Iranian origin - but WP:LEDE does not recommend to state the origin in the lede, therefore for the lede she must be an American mathematician. (Same way as I am a Dutch physicist because I am employed by a Dutch university, despite the fact that I still have Russian passport). Previously, the lede said Iranian-American mathematician, but even this was reverted.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 19:02, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Please do not enter your speculations as facts in the article. She is an Iranian and the media points to this. Even acquiring a citizenship does not automatically make you of that country as Gérard Depardieu is not a russian actor. As per living in California, it does not prove anything regarding her nationality. Terence Tao has been living there way before here while he's never being called an American guy. Please accept the reality that an Iranian has won this prize.-- Drako ( talk) 03:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
#Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity);
- In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable.
- Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.
-- Ymblanter ( talk) 08:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
According to your logic, Messi would be a spanish footballer, not an argentinian, Fabio Luisi an american conductor, not an italian and so forth. Your self-assessment is irrelevant here. Mirzakhanis self-assessment would be of greater importance. About the guidelines you posted: Do you have proof that she is american citizen? This is the only relevant point here. In this case, describing her as Iranian-American would be proper.-- Severino ( talk) 08:36, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Read your own edit: "...the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident...". Not "irrespectively of the citizenship"! And I meant YOUR self-assessment with which you began the thread and which you cite as an example for the description of Mirzakhani.--
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"...the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable...previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.." So this seems to be a matter of discretion: citizenship or residence, now or when she/he became notable or in the past (when notable). Iranian-American would be Ok for me.-- Severino ( talk) 14:25, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
You can't write "Iranian-American" unless you find a reliable source that says she is a US citizen or a reliable source saying that she identifies as an American (which lots of foreign academics working in the USA do not). You don't even know if she has a permanent US visa. I know academics who have lived longer than her in the USA and just renew their temporary visas every few years. Wikipedia is intended as an encyclopaedia which ordinary people can visit to learn some facts. Don't expect them to dig into the arcana of Wikipedia rules in order to understand what the first sentence of the article really means; just tell them the facts you can source in a way they will understand. The known facts are that she is Iranian and that she has lived in the USA since whenever it was. Just say that and let the readers decide to think of her as Iranian-American or not. Zero talk 04:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
There is also an issue raised here. [4] Roger ( talk) 23:51, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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link)82.8.62.228 ( talk) 18:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC) Why should it be removed? Prof MIRZAKHANI is Iranian, and this fact is documented in various sources, including media. Do you have any problem with that? The WikiPedia page of all Fields Medal winners mentions their nationality, why should this one not follow the same pattern?
Can someone explain why this is in the article? Just because some newspapers reported on it, doesn't mean we should use it without explaining the significance of this. Two kinds of pork ( talk) 06:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned.
Why is the president of Iran congratulating her in the section discussing her research?-- 345Kai ( talk) 00:19, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
It is redundant to say in the first line she's working in the US when next sentence asserts that she's a Stanford professor. -- Drako ( talk) 22:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
lt would be nice if someone could upload her photo. 212.174.135.252 ( talk) 15:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
@ David Eppstein The first sentence states:"Maryam Mirzakhani (Persian: مریم میرزاخانی; born May 1977) is an Iranian[1] mathematician in the United States". By "In the United States",what are we trying to say?She just works in US,but resides elsewhere?She resides in US and works there too?it's vague.Besides,There should not be any reason to get concerned for including her current residence in the first sentence,since her page states that she resides in US. Rezameyqani ( talk) 21:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
She's clearly had both Iranian and American citizenships. The question is now whether the sentence "Mirzakhani was an Iranian/Iranian-American/whatever mathematician" refers to her nationality or citizenship. But whatever we decide to write as the first sentence, these two facts (citizenship and nationality) should be included elsewhere (infobox, for example) in the article. Physicsch ( talk) 02:47, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Warning Please stop. Seek WP:CONSENSUS here. Thank you. (This page is not on my watch list. If my attention is required please ping me or drop me a line on my talk page.) - Ad Orientem ( talk) 20:06, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Per NAS, members of the National Academy must be U.S. citizens [6], otherwise they'll be elected as "foreign associates". Mirzakhani has been elected as a member [7], so she must have been a U.S. citizen. This should be reflected in the article. -- Drako ( talk) 20:18, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
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Please rearrange the personal life section to be in chronological order, as follows. Nikkimaria ( talk) 01:14, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Mirzakhani was married to Jan Vondrák, a Czech theoretical computer scientist and applied mathematician who is an associate professor at Stanford University; [1] they had a daughter named Anahita. [2] Mirzakhani was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2013. [3] After four years, it spread to her bone marrow. [4] She died on 15 July 2017. [5]
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Can some one please unblock the page so thai I can edit the death place of this person and her father? [1] [2] Malayedit ( talk) 04:38, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
I want to edit the fact that her daughter was 6 years old + she died of breast cancer where the cancer spread to her bone marrow.
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Interesting article. I suggest mentioning the date of her death and the cause of it in the lead section. Best, Doctor Papa Jones • ( Click here to collect your prize!) 10:36, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
I think this should be Iranian. Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 11:44, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
There is no question here, not even a debate. Various Iranian news channels and magazines have conducted regular interviews with her (from 1994 until April 2017). She was merely a U.S. residence and not a citizen. She was Iranian, and she herself identified as Iranian in her interviews and Résumés. The IRIB has done an interview with her family members (including her husband) and friends in which they all talk about how proud of an Iranian she was and that's why she named her daughter Anahita. Furthermore, In spite of the fact that she was entitled to apply for citizenship, she did not. She did not even apply to become a naturalized citizen. This whole 'debate' here is artificial and irrelevant, and what some editors are rather disingenuously trying (and failing) to promote is nothing short of a propaganda. She was an Iranian, not Iranian-American. That is a fact. Furthermore, she did her undergraduate, postgraduate, and won the International Mathematical Olympiad whilst also in Iran. The only valid case for using "Iranian-American" is if she had a U.S. citizenship - which she did not. Nor did she, even remotely, identify herself as American. She was Iranian and identified herself as such in every appropriate occasion. This article ought to be semi-protected as long as certain users attempt to make some perverted changes to promote a particular geopolitical narrative. Neutral Observer ( talk) 16:35, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
I recommend you to read what I wrote again. This is not a matter of "belief". Although, I appreciate that you are not in a position to contact the National Academy to ask for an explanation in order to clarify this rather silly situation. Not only she was not a U.S. citizen, she was not even a naturalised citizen. The vast majority of her interviews in last 15 years were conducted in Persian. Given the sudden event of the last 96 hours, the level of demand for information in the English media has been overwhelming. Therefore, various Persian outlets including (but not limited to) Iran Broadcasting University, Zanan, POOSHESH, IRNA, have been trying to prioritise and translate some materials into English. In fact, I am aware that the BBC Persian tried contacting the National Academy on a number of occasions to seek clarification. But then her family members were contacted whom then clarified the issue, and hence, the BBC article identified her as Iranian. As I said, the IRIB, Daneshmand, Jame Jam TV and many others, have done a number of interviews with her, her family (husband), and university professors (at Sharif, Harvard, and Princeton). Maryam Mirzakhani has said in all those interviews - as the question was very specifically asked - that she identified herself as Iranian. In fact, she has rewritten poems (in Persian) dedicated to her love for her motherland. She specifically did not want to apply for citizenship and purposely decided not to talk about it. Giving the National Academy the benefit of the doubt, this vagueness may have been the reason for their shamble administrative work. However, I am doubtful as the university faculty and the relevant medical authorities were all aware of her immigration status. This is not a matter of opinion or one's beliefs. Neutral Observer ( talk) 18:40, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
It is very obvious that you are not familiar with the most rudimentary principles of academia and proof. The burden of proof is on you, not me, or others that have objected to such propaganda type of editing. Even using the Wikipedias policy of available information, right at this moment, outweighs what you, in fact, are the one forcefully propagating here. Neutral Observer ( talk) 18:58, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
I have to say, I am rather amused by your nonsense. BBC Persian Pooneh Ghoddoos and Kasra Naji, prior to publishing the article, had contacted her mother to get a confirmation. Rana Rahimpour - another BBC Persian employee - is yet to receive any response from the National Academy. Gholamali Khoshroo - Iran's ambassador to the United Nations, CNN, ABC, and all the other mainstream sources that Wikipedia uses as an authority, none have referred to her as an "Iranian-Amercian". Her husband - Jan Vondrák - also described her in the interview with Daneshmand as Iranian. The National Academy cannot be taken as the single source of "proof", without any consensus, whilst ignoring the direct contradicting information available via mainstream sources. I suspect some of those interviews and other relevant materials will be translated into English soon enough. But it appears that the National Academy is better informed about the legal status of Maryam Mirzakhani than herself, her husband, her family, and the Permanent Representative of Iran to the United Nations. I will be even more amused in a week or so when this perverted issue is put to rest, and you yourself are forced to revert any changes. Neutral Observer ( talk) 21:10, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Further information has come to light, thereby confirming the fact that Maryam Mirzakhani was not a U.S. citizen and merely "made the United States her permanent home". Here is the National Iranian American Council statement on Dr. Mirzakhani: https://www.niacouncil.org/niac-statement-passing-maryam-mirzakhani/ which is a proof that Dr. Mirzakhani was not an American.
This is in line with the articles produced by the New York Times, Scientific American, BBC, and many others. It may come as a surprise to some editors here, but media outlets such as the New York Times and the BBC, have a high editorial standard. Prior to releasing the statement, the NIAC directors - Elham Khatami and Reza Marashi - confirmed Dr. Mirzakhani's legal status directly through her husband Jan Vondrák. Furthermore, Firouz Naderi, a friend of Dr. Mirzakhani, and Sanam Narghani-Anderlini, a regular contributor at the Atlantic Council, have also confirmed this. Neutral Observer ( talk) 20:45, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
@NPalgan2 - Yes exactly. One cannot adopt a creative interpretation in order to suit one's narrative. The fact of the matter is, as confirmed by her family (mother and husband), friends, the NIAC, NYT, BBC - and various other mainstream sources - she was not an American passport holder/citizen, therefore not an American. That is a fact. Neutral Observer ( talk) 21:54, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
@Zerotalk - There is no claim or paraphrasing for that matter. That quote is taken directly from the NIAC statement. For the sake of clarification, I will copy and paste the entirety of the NIAC statement.
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NIAC Statement on Passing of Maryam Mirzakhani
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Elham Khatami Phone: 202 386 6325 Email: ekhatami@niacouncil.org
Washington, D.C. – Elham Khatami released this statement following the untimely death of Maryam Mirzakhani, the first woman to win the Fields Medal for mathematics:
“We offer our sincerest condolences to the friends and family of Stanford Professor Maryam Mirzakhani, who was the first woman and first Iranian to win the prestigious Fields Medal. In her short 40 years, she left an indelible mark on the world.
“Professor Mirzakhani grew up in Iran, attended Harvard, and eventually made the United States her permanent home. While her achievements are extraordinary, her story is common. Thousands of Iranians have come to the US and made immense contributions to our society, especially in the sciences. Luckily for the nation, Professor Mirzakhani was one of those ambitious young people who was given the chance to realize her full potential in the US. The best way for the country to honor her legacy and contributions is to keep the door of opportunity open to others like her so that they may continue her life’s work."
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She was not an American. Only Iranian. That is a fact. Neutral Observer ( talk) 22:19, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
This is not an example of original research. That is just your opinion. There is no "we" here, and you certainly do not have the mandate to speak on anyone's behalf. The default assumption is not that Maryam Mirzakhani was an American until proven otherwise. None of the available information describes her as an "Iranian-American". None. The National Iranian American Council is a source of authority and also a reliable source. Their statement is a proof that she was not, in fact, American. Furthermore, your assertion that the threshold for proof, in this case, is only met if "a solid reliable source saying explicitly that "she did not become a US citizen" - is your personal view and not that of Wikipedia's policy or community. Individual editors do not determine or outright define such parameters. Indeed, we do not have any source - reliable or otherwise - that have described Dr. Mirzakhani as an "Iranian-American", and many that assert she was only Iranian. Assuming for the moment, however, that this a form of original research (which is not), the fact remains that her husband, mother, and friends, have all confirmed that she was not an American. An example of original research would be if I included in this page my email correspondence with NIAC's Elham Khatami, inquiring about Dr. Mirzakhani legal status and Khatami's response that Maryam Mirzakhani was merely a Permanent residence - a Green Card holder. And as another editor - NPalgan2 - pointed out: "A green card is permanent, but a green card holder is not a citizen." I think it would be clear to anyone reading your last comment that you appear to be adopting a creative and somewhat desperate interpretation to suit your narrative. I submit that, even right at this moment, cumulatively, the mainstream sources such as the BBC, NYT, Scientific American (amongst many others), in conjunction with the National Iranian American Council statement, is a proof that Dr. Mirzakhani was not an "Iranian-American". Neutral Observer ( talk) 14:40, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I have incidentally noticed that there are too many threads here about whether she was "Iranian" or "Iranian-American" and after carefully reading the discussion above, my opinion is that we cannot consider herself to be "Iranian-American" unless we have reliable sources claiming that she obtained a US citizenship at any time during her life. Those claiming that she was surely a US citizen because she was awarded a prize that only American citizens can be awarded with are actually involving themselves in an original research or more specifically in a build-up of a synthesis with no reliable sources to support their claim. It is very simple and not worth wasting someone's time for such an extremely extensive discussion: just find a reliable source mentioning she was American and we are going to change it from "Iranian" to "Iranian-American".-- Kiril Simeonovski ( talk) 21:11, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Exactly. The percentage of sources claiming she's Iranian is high. Slug like you ( talk) 08:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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[[Iranian diaspora|Iranian]]should be a good start to build on until we have a source for the American citizenship? Widefox; talk 11:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
https://www.quantamagazine.org/maryam-mirzakhani-is-first-woman-fields-medalist-20140812
^ She is talking about her life and some of her work.
Also a picture form Flickr https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3857/14905300946_09fbe83f8e_b.jpg
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change date of death July 15 to July 14. Source: Revised obituary of the Standford University 141.67.155.41 ( talk) 07:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Discussion on faith of her husband is misleading. Claims by Guardian journalist is sourceless and just a presumption. Should be dropped from Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calmath ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
This was added: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Maryam_Mirzakhani&diff=791039985&oldid=791038797 It's the only outlet making this claim about Mirzakhani and Hossein Modarressi and appears to be someone's blog hosted by not well known press agency. Removing it until better sources substantiate it. NPalgan2 ( talk) 19:44, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
In addition to being Iranian with a U.S. Permanent Resident (as established by the National Iranian American Council [1]), we now have Dr. Hamid Dabashi - the Hagop Kevorkian Professor of Iranian Studies and Comparative Literature at Columbia University, and, Dr. Abbas Milani Professor of Political Science and the Director of the Iranian Studies Program at Stanford University, also confirming that she was a Muslim. The former - Dr. Dabashi - has recently written an article on Al Jazeera - "From Khayyam to Mirzakhani: Iran's beautiful minds", [2] and the latter - Dr. Milani - has given interviews [3] about the subject in Persian. Dr. Amir Jaafari, an old friend and a classmate of Maryam Mirzakhani, has talked about how proud she was of being an Iranian [4]. Furthermore, after all the perverted nonsense surrounding her (some of which is reflected here i.e. attempting to plant an American flag on her dead body and falsifying her identity), her father Ahmad Mirzakhani, and her husband Jan Vondrák - published a video [5] saying that they will hold an event at Standford University (which is being organised by Dr. Milani) to talk about her personal life. Neutral Observer ( talk) 16:43, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear all, I added a piece on her faith in the page. I am referring to several sources that confirms her faith. First her father and brother in crediblle and credited Persian media confirmed she was buried according to Shia Islam tradition. Second, Hosein Modarresi is a renown scholar and credited Persian media reported from him and he did not refute those reports after at least a week. Third, Abdolhosein Mokhtabad and Abdolali Bazargan in personal pages confirmed they were present at her burial ceremony and she was buried as a Muslim. Fourth, her family had planned to hold her memorial ceremony in an Islamic organization but later merged it with Stanford. These clearly demonstrate her faith. This is totally against claim of the Guardian journalist which had claimed her husband is not Muslim with no source! Finally, Mirzakhani was born in a muslim family and her father manages a charity. It is totally logical to assume she is Muslim, unless she has clearly announced she is not. This is the standard in media to ascribe family religion to a person unless that person says otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.136.116.2 ( talk) 22:46, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your information about Wikipedia policy. When will Mirzakhani be considered dead by you or the policy that you are referring? It seems a bit strange that she is still considered a living person. What is definition of "recent"? Considering the information you provided, when she is considered dead later, then she will be fit into Wikipedia definition of Muslim because current sources all have consensus that she was Muslim. I am not saying there are extensive sources which describe details of her belief or level of ascription but the ones that exist have consensus and no credible source has refuted the existing sources. Even the Guardian article merely assumed her husband is not Muslim. Also, please be aware that being Muslim has nothing to do with deep level of identification. Many people who do not practice Islam at all, consider themselves Muslim, e.g. Sam Dastyari who is an Australian senator and many consider themselves only culturally Muslim, e.g. Orhan Pamuk. In my opinion, if someone is buried according to a religious tradition at least that person ascribes culturally to that religion. The very least that can be written in Wikipedia is that current sources have consensus that she was Muslim. It may seem strange why we are having this discussion? The reason simply is that she is high-profile beyond being a mathematician in Iran and people are using her image to push some personal agenda. So, it seems very logical to me that at least people have this information that current sources all agree that she was Muslim and no credible sources have refuted this claim. — Preceding
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Again there is a big difference between 6 month and 2 years? What source are you using to base your claim on definition of living person? The case of Orwell is different because he clearly stated that he was an atheist. In lack of any other evidence, burial according to a religious tradition is a sign for at least cultural ascription to that religion. The moral of story is that for being Muslim we don't need deep identification, nor self-expression. When all information have consensus on belief of a Person, we can still consider the information even that person is alive (I am talking beyond Wikipedia policy). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.136.116.2 ( talk) 02:02, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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are you kidding? so Lagrange is italian, and Einstein a swiss, and Teller was Magyar; maybe Eminem so is polish!! [and 'Bama Kenyan] Tabascofernandez ( talk) 23:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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I want to add reference [57] to the first line, after [5][6][1]. In other words, I want to change [5][6][1] to [5][6][1][57]. PirouzZ ( talk) 09:36, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I wanted to add a new reference to the first line of Maryam Mirzakhani page where it says "was an Iranian [5][6][1] mathematician". A reference, currently numbered as [58], is already mentioned in the page:. [1] This one, I think, is a better reference compared to [1] which is old, and even to [5] and [6], which are articles in BBC and NYT. I suggest changing [5][6][1] to [1][5][6][58]. Thanks, PirouzZ ( talk) 21:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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I have just undone a change of the main image. Happy to discuss here. The current one is very poor resolution, but in the new one her eyes were closed and was in profile, so I didn't think it was an improvement despite being larger. We do need a better photo though. Mvolz ( talk) 09:54, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I've noticed some edit "warring" to the birth date. There are multiple English language sources (NYTimes, Brittanica) stating a birth date of 3 May 1977. However, her personal webpage, which is maintained by her family, states 22 Ordibehesht 1356. This is an Iranian date which, if I convert it to the Georgian calendar, is 12 May 1977, not 3. It's plausible that some secondary source originally mistranslated the date and this propagated to these multiple reliable sources. Although I suppose it's also possible her own family doesn't know what day she was born :). Can we develop a consensus here before any further changes? Thanks! Mvolz ( talk) 15:39, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I have removed these from the article as they should not be there. Hrodvarsson ( talk) 00:25, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
This YouTube video is probably inappropriate, almost certainly an unauthorized copy. Turtlens ( talk) 06:34, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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