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It appears to be a little excessive to list everything he is ever written. I'm pretty sure the guidelines back me up on this one.--
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20:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)reply
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The current size of the article is approximately 64
kB. Per
WP:SIZERULE, we should probably divide it into more articles, since the scope of the topic cannot be said to justify the extent of the reading material, or cut down its size. I suggest we proceed by cutting down the long and unnecessary section on the subject's person, which already sets the article
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The Gnome (
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09:04, 11 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Houston, we have a problem! The text abounds with material evidently not worthy of inclusion in the
Wikipedia biography of a
hedge fund manager (and owner, etc).
Templates about the text's
promotional intent are posted up but taken down immediately. The attempt to save the glorified portraiture is perpetrated by
IPs who appear here
with only one objective, to service the article, and then they bid us adieu. Despite their efforts, the article remains
excessive in length, intensely
ad-like, and
weaselly in nature. I'm taking the
initiative to perform the following work:
Infobox is trimmed down: In 'occupation' the main occupation suffices;
primary sources, e.g. own book, corporate website statements, etc, cited about education info, are removed; in 'contributions' one jargon term is enough; and so on.
Sources that are
inappropriate are thrown out. E.g. the blatant
advertorial in Worth, a magazine that explicitly[1] offers a "
pay-for-play opportunity for financial advisors who want to buy exposure to high net worth investors."
Personal traits are almost all excised since they provide no
encyclopaedic value at all. The extensive descriptions of the article's subject as being "secretive", "blond" (with citation), ultra "succesful" (a word appearing eight times}, and an economic theorist are put to rest. Same goes for the glowing descriptions (e.g. "the
Babe Ruth of traders" for his trading mentor;
Taleb's subsequent fame; etc) for the persons near and dear to the subject.
Images such as that of Idyll Farms are removed since there is already a link taking is to the
eponymous article, in which the farm's image is tellingly smaller than in the biography.
Personal viewpoints are interesting only up to the point where genuine encyclopaedic value is imparted. That point may be subjectively placed but the space previously given for the subject's views exceeds that for prominent economic theorists. It's a case of
seriously undue weight and therefore balance is restored.
@
The Gnome: I think this cut-down was overly broad and indiscriminate. I invite the down-cutter to reconsider and make suggestions to re-do the effort. If not, I'll do so myself.
Tapered (
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23:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Could you please elaborate on your remarks,
Tapered? You assert "broadness" and "indiscrimination" but the editing has been amply supported by reasons. This is the
WP:BLP of an entrepreneur; not of the most important entrepreneur ever, nor of a religious figurehead. (You may count text words and compare.) As to suggestions, by all means, please offer speficic and reasoned ones. -
The Gnome (
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11:49, 6 August 2019 (UTC)reply
I reacted reflexively to the removal of properly referenced material. For the most part, in error. My Bad. But...I thought that the excision from his goat farm was more than warranted. Ironically, the one piece I'd like to see restored is his adventure in urban farming in Detroit. Please see the last paragraph of the article as 11 Feb 2019. It's entertaining, brief, and says a lot about Spitznagel's character.
Tapered (
talk)
01:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The amount of detailed information of a
biography subject's personal life generally tends to correspond to the subject's level of
notability. For example, we'd probably want to include as much info on
Freud's personal life as
possible in the article about him, but not as much in the article about a simply notable Austrian
psychiatrist. Spitznagel is simply a successful businessman; we only need some elementary information about his personal life. Tidbits about pet projects and similar stuff, unrelated to his business, offer no
encyclopaedic value whatsoever. Take care. -
The Gnome (
talk)
06:23, 7 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Greetings, one and all.
Articles about persons with viewpoints on economics, especially economists, typically contain sections with opposite views, rebuttals, discourse, etc, for obvious reasons of
balance and to, at least, avoid the appearance of having
promotional material in an article or adopting an
adoring slant. This article seems to be missing such balance, having only a passing mention of
Paul Krugman's rejection of the claims about the alleged harm to the economy caused by
government and central bank interventions. Any ideas? -
The Gnome (
talk)
12:40, 20 February 2019 (UTC)reply
After a casual perusal of online texts, it seems there's ample opposition to subject's views, presented quite strongly and practically unopposed in the article, about (a) the U.S. Fed's alleged culpability for “increasing wealth disparity,” (b) the economic "distortions" that ostensibly result from
money creation, and (c) his ostensibly “perfectly predictable, by economic logic alone” point about the connection between
monetary interventionism and subsequent stock market losses, in which he uses
Tobin's
Q-ratio. We may merrily proceed to restore
balance. -
The Gnome (
talk)
14:09, 21 February 2019 (UTC)reply