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Refer to introductory statements about the following politicians:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_Scholz https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Mattarella https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Rebelo_de_Sousa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_S%C3%A1nchez https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
If you'll notice, zero of these pages include vague political compass designations in their introductory statements. Instead, these attributions are made later, and from a more NPOV. Gasittig ( talk) 18:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
There is a very determined attempt on behalf of this candidate to edit this page in a way that focuses on how she has changed e.g. focusing on voter friendly policy changes or anecdotes, rather than actions or current policy. My understanding is that this in in step with the efforts by her supporters regarding 'de-demonisation'.
Unfortunately, this also violates NPOV.
The fairest way to approach this is to use what sources considered reputable by Wikipedia say about the candidate and to focus on clear description of current political position, policy and activities. This is what this page now does. Jw2036 ( talk) 11:07, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm confused at the notion that putting the page in line with virtually every other politician on the encyclopedia - while still including the claim of her political compass positioning later in the paragraph in neutral terms - is in any way making some sort of claim about her changes.
Call me stubborn, but it's a determined attempt because this introduction is clearly different from the established neutral introductions.
Journalists aren't political scientists, and its repetition in journalistic circles doesn't create the vital need to introduce this article in a way that no other mainstream politician is. Gasittig ( talk) 14:20, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Trying to soften the image before the election? One of the users responsible for the edits called another politician "commie" in another thread. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.11.253.37 ( talk) 14:05, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
In the section that deals with Le Pen's appearance on a TV programme called "Mots Croisés", in which she attacked François Mitterand, the name of the programme is translated as "Crossed Words". This is a purely literal, word for word translation. "Mots croisés" actually means a crossword puzzle. There may well be an intended pun here, in that the programme is apparently an opportunity for politicians to trade words with each other, but presumably the programme is supposed to solve some of the puzzles of politics. 2A02:C7C:AA2B:2B00:3CDA:CCA7:4D54:7E1 ( talk) 12:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Her party is leading for now. Should this be mentioned in the article? 113.197.13.138 ( talk) 07:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)