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lets make sure to remember to stick to neutral language , incident is more neutral than hijacking and massacre. both of those words have an extremely negative connotation and this was a liberatory action. guards were making inmates fight each other for entertainment. death. horrible and had to be stopped.
maybe incident is not the best word , surely we can think of one that improves description yet retains neutrality.
The end of the Attack section and the beginning of the Aftermath section are both an absolute mess. The final paragraph of the attack section includes some (not all) of the injuries of the wounded hostages, the fact that “only one Black Panther survived”, and the fact that Judge Haley was killed by the shotgun around his neck (with vague wording implying that the shotgun didn’t kill him, but rather “discharge” from it) and was also shot either by the law enforcement or the assailants.
And then, in the very next paragraph (opening paragraph of Aftermath) it details the black panthers deaths, claims that the Judge Haley was shot by Christmas, and multiple other things that should likely be included in the attack section. Can someone please clean this article up? If no one takes it up, I’ll put the effort forth, but this article is a complete mess, and needs fixing desperately. I had to re-read both sections 3 separate times and still have no clear picture of what occurred—considering this is a very well-documented event, this should NOT be the case.
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Reliable sources describe the location of the incident as the "courthouse"
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The attacks were at the "Marin County Superior Court". The larger complex is the "Civic Center". Both are accurate, but "Courthouse" is helpful both because it's more specific and because it indicates the nature of the incident.
DenverCoder9 (
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17:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I lived very near there for years, only somewhat after the incidents; the Courthouse is part of the
Marin County Civic Center building, which is iconic because of
Frank Lloyd Wright, and while the incident started in the Courthouse, it extended to a building hallway, and the people were killed outside on the Civic Center grounds, so I'm satisfied with the title. But open to persuasion :)
SandyGeorgia (
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18:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)reply
It's a balance, you're right. "Civic Center" seems appropriate for people familiar with the building, perhaps even more literally accurate.
Perhaps I'm guilty of favoring "courthouse" because, even if slightly less (or equally) accurate, for clarity/readability. For people to whom the phrase "Marin Civic Center" means nothing, "courthouse shooting" or "courthouse attack" immediately captures the gist of what occurred: a dispute about a sentence, a judge taken hostage. I suspect this is why newspapers went with this for their national audience—a reader understands the context of a "courthouse attack".