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Name - Maria Dulębianka is clearly the most common version but Dulembianka is also used and maybe should be added. If there is a convention for Polish names beyond
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Polish) I didn't find it.
Done Thanks for that, that version never would have occurred to me, but I verified that it is used, made a redirect, and added it to the infobox as an alt.
SusunW (
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14:20, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Undiscouraged, she continued to strive for social equality, Polish independence, and cooperation between Poles and Ukrainians - this sentence could do with some blue links, perhaps
social equality and
Ukrainians.
The nature of their relationship has not been conclusively settled by academics,[2][7][8][9] in part, because after their deaths letters were burned by family members,[8] but also because Konopnicka was aware official censors might read her correspondence and rarely wrote about family matters even in her published works.[4][7]
I don't think this is a pass/fail issue, but it might be worth giving direct quotes at [2][7][8][9] since this is clearly controversial and two of the four refs are in Polish. I'm thinking here about
WP:NONENG, specifically As with sources in English, if a dispute arises involving a citation to a non-English source, editors may request that a quotation of relevant portions of the original source be provided, either in text, in a footnote, or on the article talk page.
See footnotes I have added. I discovered a whole group of sources while working on another biography that explains the difficulty in Poland historically and I think that it clarifies the situation.
SusunW (
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15:15, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
These footnotes are great, really useful! I still think at a point in the future someone may request to have a direct quotation for the two Polish sources and that might be worth adding, but as I said I don't believe that to be a pass/fail issue.
Mujinga (
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19:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Mujinga, I did provide a translation for one of them. The other is more of a why must we know the sexuality of historic figures, leave them alone lament and no easy way to quote a specific statement. Glad you found the information helpful. Obviously, it is always complex to evaluate historic situations from a current lens.
SusunW (
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19:29, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
In 1900, at the international Paris art exhibition. the wikilinked page says Exposition Universelle of 1900, better known in English as the
1900 Paris Exposition, so perhaps that's a better name for it here as well (same for other mentions in activism section and lead).
Done except I am unsure if I properly coded the redlink. How does one create a title which codes the name to be italcized?
SusunW (
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15:57, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Yes, that was my problem as well ill gave no answers. Technology and coding are always my downfall on WP and I often need help with them. Writing and research are not a problem, but technical stuff on here is not intuitive.
SusunW (
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19:38, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
The translation of Głos Kobiet (Women's Voice) is given on second mention, not first.
Galician Sjem - although this phrase is used in some of the sources, it is a bit confusing here for me since unless Galician Sjem is well known in English, from the link it seems to be the Diet of Galicia and Lodomeria in English or Sejm Krajowy in Polish. Górny says Galician Parliament.
The funeral was widely attended as a patriotic event, attracting women activists, single mothers, residents of shelters she had established, as well as their guardians. Part of this sentence might be better phrased as women's movement activists and single mothers, plus residents of shelters and the residents’ guardians
Several of the sources, for example Górny, mention that Dulębianka has been rediscovered and celebrated by modern Polish feminists, so perhaps a sentence on that is worthwhile. Further either here or at its mention regarding Ster, I think feminism should be wikilinked.
In 2018, a film, Siłaczki by Marta Dzido and Piotr Śliwowski was released, describing the struggle of Polish women to gain rights - I feel this sentence deserves a new paragraph and perhaps could be edited to something like: The film Siłaczki by Marta Dzido and Piotr Śliwowski was released in 2018. it describes the struggle of Polish women to gainequalrights.
Sorry but I do not understand why this would be its own separate paragraph. This is not an article highlighting the film. In the reverse, the film was produced to highlight her legacy. That being said, I have modified the sentences. Advise if this is not sufficient.
SusunW (
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16:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
My thinking was it needed a different paragraph because we were jumping from 1908 to 2018, but now you have mentioned the 1990s and I agree with you it's better as one paragraph.
Mujinga (
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19:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
References
Images
File:Maria Dulębianka (SF).jpg is fine, uploader has been asked to provide where and when the image was first published but it does seem to be in public domain.
Done I think that is standard wording for the template. The source was already stated along with the publication date. Though no link is required, I added one with the page number upon which the photograph appears.
SusunW (
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16:40, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
File:Maria Dulębianka - Uczony z księgą.jpg is fine, just needs Scholar and book to be italicised in caption.
Mujinga I think I have addressed all your concerns, but if something needs further discussion or fixing, please ping me. Thank you so much for doing the review, many times my "foreign source" bios wait a much longer time before someone picks them up.
SusunW (
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16:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
SusunW I'm grateful for your thorough and prompt answers, and I am now giving this article a pass for Good Article status. Congratulations! I've left a few replies above which are more comments than anything else. I picked the article because the subject was interesting, yes I didn't realise until later in the process that it's actually quite new. Thanks for an enjoyable process, I'll proceed with the steps to finish the review now.
Mujinga (
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19:25, 3 July 2019 (UTC)reply
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