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1. Summary/right side bar, under Children: What I think should be changed: Delete “Zion” and “footnote 1” “Zion”, and “footnote 1” should be changed to “Four children” or “four children from prior relationships”;
Why it should be changed: Zion is a minor, singled out among the subjects 4 children, and incorrenctly footnoted to “Leadership” in Marc Gafni’s personal business page, and verified only by Marc Gafni's peronsal current business page.
2. Under "Integral Theory" section under "Teachings" What I think should be changed: Delete “Mariana Caplan” from this sentence.
Why it should be changed: Mariana Caplan did not found this organization. The source/footnote for this fact is only verified by Marc Gafni’s current business page, where Mariana Caplan is inaccurately referenced and without consent as a founder to his current business. Mariana Caplan has no relationship and involvement with Integral Theory or any of Marc Gafni’s organizations.
References: There are no accurate references online or offline besides Marc Gafni's personal business pages to verify this information
Mariana Caplan ( talk) 13:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you for responding to my previous request to edit the page that was primarily sourced with the subjects personal web page. There is one small additional edit I would like to request.
What I think should be changed:
Under "Teachings" and the subsection "Integral Theory" delete Footnote 33 both in the body of the text as well as from the Reference section.
Why I think it should be changed:
1) It quotes a source from the subjects personal page that does not correspond to anything stated in the first 2 sentences before the reference; 2) The article sourced links to a page where the "file is not found." The origional publishers of the article being referred to deleted it from their own archives long ago, and it only exists on the subjects personal web page as a photographed PDF. On this page it is not linked to any source.
Thank you for considering this.
Mariana Caplan ( talk) 12:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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Per discussion and edits changing 'author' to 'writer' [1] Please cite wikipedia source that says professional best seller authors should be listed as 'writers'.
Here's some general knowledge of use of these words: "Both author and writer refer to a person who writes. In general, the word author is used to refer to a person who writes professionally, especially someone who writes published books. The word writer is typically used more generally to refer to someone who writes anything, including works besides books."
Controversy sections are discouraged. I suggest that the biography be chronological, which it currently is not. In the religious career section, his ordination in 2008 is put ahead of the retraction of another ordination in 2006. So when was he first ordained? Since the allegations are discussed as the reason for giving back or having ordinations retracted, the allegations should be integrated into the time line.
Putting all the negative material at the end of the article is problematic, since it leaves his ordaining and deordaining, his establishment of centers or organizations and their disestablishment, completely out of context referencing material that has not been presented to the reader yet. Therefore it should all simply be presented in chronological order. Also, calling it out under a heading listed in the tables of contents could be considered a biased form of presentation. If the material is presented chronologically, and if the lead fully summarizes the article, there should be no need for controversial section headings. Skyerise ( talk) 20:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
I've removed the information about Gafni's claimed current ordination, which was sourced only to Gafni, after searching for and not finding any third-party verification. This cannot be sourced to Gafni's self-published website, because it makes a claim about another living person, the Rabbi he claims ordained him, which isn't permitted under WP:ABOUTSELF. Skyerise ( talk) 11:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
The weight given to explanation of allegations in the lead is probably undue. Should be summarized. Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 22:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)