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What is the appeal of epsom salt soaks? Does it do anything special? -- Elijah 05:19, 2005 Jan 21 (UTC)
Reference number 18 suggests magnets for improving sleep to reduce muscle and joint pain. To my knowledge, the health benefits of magnetic fields have been thoroughly debunked (see Magnet_therapy#Criticism). Also, the reference itself is secondary in that it references a "July 1998 issue of The American Journal of Medicine ". It just sounds like a crumby thing to cite. Let's try and find a better one! L3lackEyedAngels ( talk) 03:19, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know the enthalpy of hydration of Magnesium sulfate? -- Tiaot ( talk) 04:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I was looking for solubilities at higher temperatures in the Merck index and noticed (for the heptahydrate) 'Soly in water (g/100 ml): at 20° = 71; at 40° = 91.' After doing the conversion (to put the heptahydrate in terms of the anhydrous salt) the solubility should be around 35g/dl. This is a pretty large difference.
In addition, I think it would be good practice to specify what hydrated form the density data is for, as the data is pretty much useless without this specification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.66.171 ( talk) 18:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
someone sent me a non-surgical way to get rid of gallstones. It included drinking a warm glass of water with a teaspoon of Epsom salt. Is this safe to take orally without a doctors prescription? -mulat
Don't you guys think we should have some sort of template for chemical compounds? And shouldn't such information as the empirical Ksp be a part of that, somewhere on the right? I have a hard time finding Ksp, and this should be a central place to find it. - ElAmericano 01:26, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Would anyone more qualified than me like to apply the {{
Template:Chembox simple inorganic}}
to this and other compounds? It seems like a good idea to me. -
ElAmericano
22:08, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I also want to know its effect for a gallstone, can somebody tell me complete procedure and what would be the result? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.71.129.190 ( talk) 02:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
added a note on its use as a drying agent. -- Dstroud 04:21, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
The table on the right seems to interfere with the section edit links. I'm running Mac OS X and on Safari it looks like this [1]. I tried Firefox but it's not much better.
Other pages with that table don't seem to have this problem, a quick look at the page source suggests their tables are implemented differently, but it's completely opaque to me so I haven't attempted to change. Until someone comes along who can do the job, I've added __NOEDITSECTION__ to fix the problem temporarily. I realise this isn't ideal, but I think it's the lesser of two evils. -- benmachine 20:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Well spotted. Thanks! JFW | T@lk 17:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Magnesium relaxes muscle contractions whereas calcium causes muscles to contract. They are antagonists. So if you're cramping or sore and can either ingest a magnesium supplement or soak in mg to even the levels of ca:mg
Also recommended at least 2 cups to soak in per bath. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.196.53.208 ( talk) 02:42, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
What is the evidence that soaking in Epsom salts is medically benificial? I have Hemorrhoids and soaking in Epsom salts was recommended, and I have experienced an easing of symptoms during soaking. The Epsom salt council indicates that absorbtion of magnesium through the digestive tract can be blocked by some foods drugs and illnesses and implies that that is why soaking is recommended. Does anyone know of any medical research that would back this up? Does anyone know why doctors recommend soaking in Epsom salts for hemorhoids? Edwin Stearns | Talk 20:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm also curious about this. I was told that for stiff or strained muscles it is beneficial in reducing pain, once it gets abosrbed through the skin, and have been using it for a few years now whenever I pull a muscle during martial arts or exercising. However, I'm wondering if it isn't just a placebo effect... Shanada 13:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
I challenge anyone to provide clinical evidence that magnesium sulfate has any analgesic effect beyond that of warm water. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishmael2u ( talk • contribs) 18:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I was also told that the soaking in Epsom salt that I did for my ingrown nail was merely, as the doctor put it, "delaying the inevitable". I also do not recall it really doing anything other than dampening my foot. Rockhound 22:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Research at Birmingham university UK Mgwater has shown that both Mg and sulfate are transferred through the skin when bathing in 1% solution in useful amounts to correct deficiency. Surplus is excreted by the kidneys. [user ProfSWback 15:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)profSWback 19 dec 2006]
i am trying to understand what is benefit of soaking.. so far i gather three things = it keeps skin from "pruning" and if you have a cut, the salt is cleansing, and enough of the "salt" is absorbed by skin help correct Mg and sulfate deficiencies. however, that doesnt answer if and why it would help sore muscles, etc...unless they are caused by Mg and/or sulfate deficiencies?
I strongly suspect that the whole muscle soreness thing is complete superstition. I don't think there's any evidence at all. Considering that a warm bath already works rather well for soreness, a massive placebo effect is not only possible but likely.
I believe that Epsom Salts finds it's gretest benefit in treating insect bites, hives, chicken pox, etc... It is definately more soothing than a warm bath esp when the affected areas, such as the stylostome caused by the Chiggoe, are very itchy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.249.254.76 ( talk) 01:50, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey whoever's out there, is magnesium sulfate ionic or molecular? i can't find it anywhere!
Thanks!!
Is Epsom Salts safe for use in copper baths?
There is an unreferenced comment in the article under medical uses purporting the use of magnesium sulfate "In maintaining and preventing amphetamine and methamphemine tolerance".
This comment is contradictory, and regardless of whether maintaining or preventing tolerence is it's effect, the comment should be referenced or removed.
However, if unreferenced comments are to be allowed, perhaps it is worth noting that crystal methamphetamine sold for smoking is often cut with magnesium sulfate, as it is not only similar in appearance but also in vaporisation properties when combined with liquid-phase methamphetamine.
At what temperature does MgSO4+7H2O become good 'ol anhydrous MgSO4? It's not in the article, either. Kel - Ex-web.god 22:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I am very familiar with the story of the cows and the water in Epsom, but this new story involving "Annie Epsom" (Yannie) seems very suspect. There are no valid sources provided, there is absolutely nothing found by Google about the "well known" personality, so I've removed it. If I made a mistake, please restore with valid references. Walkerma ( talk) 05:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
that is what i need to know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.204.228.206 ( talk) 20:26, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Sensitivities and Allergies
Side effects for Magnesium Sulfate may include reactions such as hives, rashes and itching.
Magnesium Sulfate by means of IV may provoke severe hives and itching.
Magnesium Sulfate consumed may provoke rashes and itching.
People that may be allergic to Magnesium Sulfate should note: Magnesium Sulfate included as ingredient in many of the popular bottled waters. NGC6396 ( talk) 16:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
My doctor suggested Magnesium Sulphate paste to draw out an abscess - it caused me to have severe irritation - I guess I'm allergic to it - swelling and inflamed skin still visible the next day - the discomfort eased with bathing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.18.36 ( talk) 07:07, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
how do you test for Iron content in magnesium sulphate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.148.11 ( talk) 12:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
The logic of this statement needs to be clarified. Avoidance of the informal use of "hungry" would solve the problem. Do such plants use more M-S than other plants? Do they grow better with greater levels of M-S? Etc. Cite your source, please.
Leafgreen ( talk) 02:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
to my knowledge the chemical that is sold and marketed to repair and rejuvinate old corroded lead/acid batteries is 99% epsom salt. Can someone else verify and confirm this and then post it in the list of uses for it , if its true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.26.198.111 ( talk) 04:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
The citation given for this is http://www.getridofthings.com/get-rid-of-boils.htm . The only mention of magnesium sulfate/bath salts/epsom salts is the phrase "Magnesium sulfate is said to be a good natural cure for boils." Unless someone can provide a proper citation, this segment should either be removed, or altered to make it clear that it is a "folk cure". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wascally wabbit ( talk • contribs) 18:28, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Well, I know (having used it myself for that purpose upon doctor's recommendation) that it isn't a folk cure, so a citeable source should be sought. 91.125.62.124 ( talk) 10:25, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
The given reference is a forum post. I'm removing both entries. Kolbasz ( talk) 22:46, 27 August 2011 (UTC)Magnesium sulfate solution has also been shown to be an effective aid in the fight against blemishes and acne when applied directly to problematic areas, usually in poultice form.[16] If combined with water and made into a cream, it can be applied to the face to remove blackheads.
"The heptahydrate can be prepared by neutralizing sulfuric acid with magnesium carbonate or oxide, but it is usually obtained directly from natural sources." < It does not say what those natural sources are, or cite anything. And, someone on Youtube is Hell-bent on tying to reference, and link to wikipedia to try to win an argument with someone after already being proven wrong by the other person, every time. That person likely edited the page to make it say that, as there's no clarification/explanation, no information, and no citations, just nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.101.236.131 ( talk) 13:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed a few citations to this group to help backup health claims made in the article. This is not a scientific organization, but an advocacy group. They shouldn't be cited as a factual reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.126.70.32 ( talk) 12:12, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
I looked at the "Xray" picture and it appeared to be something other than MgSO4. Upon clicking the file details, it actually appears to be a picture of cobalt sulfate. Does anyone more chemically-savvy want to check this out? I'm on a mobile device and I can't easily check this out. -- Elkman (Elkspeak) 05:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC) Elkman (Elkspeak) 05:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Anyone interested in taking a look at this and incorporating whatever might be useful for the article? (The studies they mention are linked.)
This section was removed by me, but I might have erred: "It is the primary substance that causes the absorption of [[Underwater acoustics|sound]] in [[seawater]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://resource.npl.co.uk/acoustics/techguides/seaabsorption/physics.html |title=Underlying physics and mechanisms for the absorption of sound in seawater |publisher=Resource.npl.co.uk |accessdate=2009-07-06 |deadurl=no |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20090618070030/http://resource.npl.co.uk/acoustics/techguides/seaabsorption/physics.html |archivedate=18 June 2009 |df=dmy-all }}</ref> ([[acoustic energy]] is converted to [[thermal energy]]). Absorption is strongly dependent on frequency: lower frequencies are less absorbed by the salt, so that the sound travels much farther in the ocean. [[Boric acid]] also contributes to absorption, but the most abundant salt in seawater, [[sodium chloride]], has negligible sound absorption." Reason: there is no discrete MgSO4 in solution, so the statement seems meaningless.-- Smokefoot ( talk) 02:00, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
I agree, and want to add that while there may be some other factors at hand, the only one which really isn't negligible on any normal scale is the density of water. Pressure wave speed is directly proportional to the density of the medium it travels through, the higher the faster. See Speed of sound.
Christopher.degrauwe ( talk) 19:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Contradictory information currently occurs on this page. The summary above the table of contents states the anhydrous form of magnesium sulfate occures in nature (along with many hydrated forms), however, in the list of hydrates, it is noted that the anhydrous form does not occur in nature. Seems like a rectification of contradiction or a clarification is in order. I don't have the expertise to make a judgment, but thought it merited highlighting.
Kwkintegrator ( talk) 23:52, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
The structure diagram is missing a -ve sign on the 2, I don't know how to fix this so if anyone would be kind enough. 144.32.240.53 ( talk) 21:34, 25 June 2023 (UTC)