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Journalistic instead of encyclopedic approach
This article, titled "M23 rebellion", hardly spends a word on the origins, development and objectives of the rebellion. Instead, it limits itself to keeping track of the rebellion's progresses and setbacks. A lot more work is needed on the "Background" section, with subsections for whatever different political and other factors led to the rebellion. — Preceding
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2001:980:540C:1:216:76FF:FE91:2064 (
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20:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Danger of recentism
I think that - as the situation in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo is ongoing - we can be in danger of misleading readers by using very recently reported activity. It's difficult to check on the accuracy of news reports, and , bearing in mind that this is an encyclopedia and not a rolling news service - it may be wise to leave a two month gap between events (supposedly) taking place and writing them into the article. Any comments? (don't be shy - but don't be rude either)
Francis Hannaway (
talk)
17:16, 18 November 2012 (UTC)reply
The whole premise of this article is recentist; should be in
Kivu conflict as an outgrowth of the CNDP fighting. This would give *much* more context. I tried to upmerge this but was beaten back by the original editor.
Buckshot06(talk)05:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)reply
I understand your concerns, but I think it would be even more misleading to readers to leave out important current details, like the fall of Goma. While Wikipedia tries to avoid being weighted to current events, there's obvious value in having our articles up-to-date.
As for upmerging, I think I'd oppose that, too, at this point. A week ago the text of this article might have neatly fit into
Kivu conflict, but now it seems long enough to be a legitimate
WP:SPINOFF--we'd have to start deleting sourced information to fit it in to the general Kivu conflict article, and surely coverage of this situation is going to continue in the coming weeks. If context is a concern, perhaps another paragraph or two could be added to the background section here by an expert editor? Just my two cents. Cheers, --
Khazar2 (
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12:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Good point. I have removed this information accordingly. I'll try to dig up sources later to confirm/deny the involvement of these nations. --
Khazar2 (
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22:19, 21 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Title
The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
M23 rebellion is the
WP:commonname. We only use descriptive titles when common names are not available. I haven't seen any news article that calls this conflict the "2012 East D.R. Congo conflict". I requested a technical move because there is consensus here to move, not to seek your opinion. If you have sources that use "M23 rebellion" in another context, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, your argument about law-breakers on the highway is
WP:OR.--
FutureTrillionaire (
talk)
15:34, 25 December 2012 (UTC)reply
Whether or not people have heard of the rebel group is completely irrelevant. M23 is a VERY COMMON abbreviation used in the news media. DO a Google News search and you will find out. Again, "M23 rebellion" is a common name used in the news media to refer to the conflict. You have not provided any source that uses in the term ("M23 rebellion") in another context. Therefore, I don't see the problem with the proposed new title. --
FutureTrillionaire (
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23:35, 25 December 2012 (UTC)reply
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