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Surely this page should be called Lytes Cary, plain and simple? At the moment, Lytes Cary is a redirect to
Charlton Mackrell, which page has a few lines about the settlement at Lytes Cary and Lytes Cary itself. It seems a nonsense that the settlement that post-dates the chapel and manor - which is the originator of the name - is under Lytes Cary. I suggest that the house and grounds go under Lytes Cary and the settlement is Lytes Cary (settlement) or Lytes Cary (hamlet), which will be a redirect to Charlton Mackrell anyhow. None of the sources I looked at call it Lytes Cary Manor - it's Lytes Cary, plain and simple. I don't know how to change all this though.
Stronach (
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16:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Well done for all your editing on this article. Having checked a couple of sources I agree it is known as Lytes Cary not Lytes Cary Manor. This would involve "moving" the page to ensure the edit history & talk page move with it. I would suggest under the naming conventions the settlement should move to "Lytes Cary, Somerset" which would then be the redirect to Charlton Mackrell. I would suggest leaving it a couple of days to see if anyone objects and then I can do the move if needed. A few other resources which might be useful to expand the article include
Lytes Cary at Somerset Historic Environment Record,
Dovecote at IoE,
Gate piers and walls at IoE,
Lytes Cary at IoE,
pair of gate piers at IoE and
Outbuildings at IoE.—
Rodtalk18:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Your move suggestion sounds very good. I added the above refs to the external links section when I was doing my edits yeasterday, but didn't refer to them as I wasn't sure about reliability of various sources - for eg, the Nat Trust guidebook says the dovecote is a water tank built by the Jenners to ape the dovecote at Avebury MAnor, whihc the IoE page says it's poss C18. Either the Nat Trust is wrong (which seems unlikely) or the Jenners made a fake good enough to fool the Eng Heritage architectural experts.
Stronach (
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06:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Added interior architecture info, but some sources do contradict so I have tried to tread the middle ground. I swapped the lead pic to one that shows the whole house, rather than the (albeit pretty) squashed oblique view one of the south front.
Stronach (
talk)
09:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Just a thought - has this been expanded enough to qualify for DYK do you reckon?
Stronach (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
09:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC).
My page size tool says the page is currently (29 April 10.00ish):reply
* File size: 68 kB
* Prose size (including all HTML code): 14 kB
* References (including all HTML code): 7469 B
* Wiki text: 17 kB
* Prose size (text only): 10 kB (1808 words) "readable prose size"
* References (text only): 1088 B
& before your edits starting 28 April 14.39
* File size: 60 kB
* Prose size (including all HTML code): 3537 B
* References (including all HTML code): 0 B
* Prose size (text only): 2147 B (372 words) "readable prose size"
* References (text only): 0 B
So it has gone from 372 words (2147 B) of readable prose to 1808 words (10kb) which is more than the required 5X expansion for DYK so why not propose it?—
Rodtalk09:38, 29 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Okay I'll go through and add refs - its a bit sparse at the mo. Should have added them as I put in the text but the cite ref malarkey is such a fag I kind of left it ...
Stronach (
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11:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)reply
I'm glad to see your work here. As per the above checklist, I do have some insights that I think will be useful in improving the article. Can you provide inline citations for the following?
"Only the older parts of the house are open to the public.".
"The Jenners had a garden staff of four.".
"The main border is 35 metres (114.8 ft) long and at its best in midsummer. The flowers grade from blues and yellows, through creams and apricots to pinks, mauves and reds. There is a restful White Garden beyond for contrast.".
"It is a plain grassed walkway connecting the Raised Walk with the Pond Garden.".
Is it possible to move inline citations in the Paintings subsection to the end of the sentences? They are inhibiting the flow.
Besides that, I think the article looks excellent. Rod, please feel free to strike out any recommendation you think will not help in improving the article. All the best, --Seabuckthorn♥23:31, 27 February 2014 (UTC)reply
A family of farmers lived at Lytes Cary between 1865 and 1903, headed by John and Lucy Eades and 8 children and two servants (from the censuses of 1871, 1881, 1891). John Eades died in 1903. In 1871 owned 218 acres with 3 labourers and 3 boys.
Pietro69blue (
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14:14, 12 April 2020 (UTC)reply