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I think its best to put the REMIX cover as official cover like in delicate, ...ready for it, beautiful trauma by pink and many more, EVEN though it already appears in the article.
Ilai48 (
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19:18, 13 November 2019 (UTC)reply
Picture of Joe Alwyn
Should the picture of Joe Alwyn seen in
this revision be restored? Several critics have noted Swift and Alwyn's relationship as a main influence on the song, and thus a major part of its lyrical composition. We're not speculating anything by simply stating critics' opinion with proper attribution.—NØ22:05, 9 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Don't have a strong opinion either way, but there isn't a reason not to keep it. The editor who removed it was removing it because they found the image unattractive, their edit summary literally just said "ew".
Billiekhalidfan (
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22:08, 25 September 2019 (UTC)reply
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We do not have a reliable source which states the song received the overwhelming adulation of every living being on the planet, rage inspiring hatred or anything in between ("acclaim", "positive reviews", "mixed-to-neutral-to-wishy-washy reviews", whatever). Instead, we have various reviews saying what various individual critics thought of the song. Adding those sources together into one statement is
synthesis. (I copied from SummerPhDv2.0's text) @
SummerPhDv2.0: Thoughts?
2402:1980:8312:264B:11CC:881D:B27B:FD77 (
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05:18, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't know who you are or why you would think I would be interested in joining your argument. I have no involvement in this article. Drawing me in because you think I am likely to agree with you is not appropriate. I am out of here. - SummerPhDv2.005:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
You sound like someone who had edited A LOT and knows about Wikipedia a lot. why don't you make you edits with your confirmed account? Why an anonymous account? Your contributions show only one edit and it's on this article. Lol.
BawinV (
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05:28, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Apart from that, every review of the song is positive. Thus, acclaim. Notably, it's placed in numerous year-end lists. So It's totally fine. Copying from someone's text is what NOT OKAY. Read
WP:POINT.
BawinV (
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05:31, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Unless the IP has taken lots of time to read through policies and guidelines, I'm guessing this address comes from an unregistered person editing in multiple locations. Either way, they bring up a valid point on WP:SYNTHESIS, BawinV. In order to include overall assessments of favorable/mixed/unfavorable reviews from critics, one would need a citation specifically mentioning that. This especially goes for asserting acclaim/getting universally panned. One cannot determine overall reception solely based on what reviews are included within article prose as you seem to believe.
SNUGGUMS (
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12:50, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Just a brief comment. Yes, SYNTH is forbidden at Wikipedia, but no firm rules have been set; and as written in
WP:SYNTHNOT, not any synthesis is a case of SYNTH. ("SYNTH is original research by synthesis, not synthesis per se). Drawing a synthesis that the song received critical acclaim based on the cited sources can be appropriate and not a case of SYNTH, depending on the quality/number of sources included, in my opinion.
HĐ (
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12:07, 1 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Merge
As the "Shawn Mendes remix" section is rather short, shall we merge it into the main article? The cover for the remix can also replace the live version cover. Plus, I do not think a cover for the dance remix is necessary, given that
WP:NFCC indicates that files should only be used to a minimal extent, and three single covers for one song is not minimal at all,
HĐ (
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13:30, 6 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I think it is more appropiate to use the cover for the First Dance Remix rather than the Shawn Mendes remix, as the latter is just an edited version of the Lover album cover, and the First Dance Remix cover uses a still from the song's music video, and hence it is more relevant to this article.
Theknine2 (
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12:04, 28 December 2021 (UTC)reply
I agree with Theknine2. The First Dance Remix image is more relevant to the article and can increase a reader's understanding of the article, while the Shawn Mendes remix cover does not add any information to the article that cannot be found here or on
Lover (album).
TheCartoonEditor(talk)(contribs)14:42, 4 January 2022 (UTC)reply
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