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Louis Chevrolet's car did not become known as his at first
Roberto
Did Louis Chevrolet work as a mechanic in his later years?
I believe that Paul Harvey's Rest Of The Story is the source for the following: Louis Chevrolet designed a new engine and the company he created was sold to General Motors. But because of bad business dealings, Louis lost everything he had and during the Great Depression, he worked as an ordinary mechanic - on Chevrolets, the car based on his design.
Jessemckay01:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)reply
That is true. After he lost everything he had, he went back to Chevrolet to ask for a job, and they gave him a job as a mechanic. I did a report on Louis Chevrolet. He also died of a Cerebral Hemorrage.
Is the mentioned "Philadelphia company developing a then-revolutionary front-wheel-drive racing car" the "Christie Direct Action Motor Car Co.? This is the only FWD racer of that period I know, but they were built either in NYC or New Jersey. --
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@
Indyguy: Regarding your
revert here, the MoS is clear on date policy as it relates to strong ties (see
MOS:DATETIES). Louis Chevrolet was a Swiss national and didn't even become a US citizen (which still wouldn't be the only deciding factor, but would become something to consider), so the article would have strong ties to Switzerland, which is already established policy (see
Tim Berners-Lee,
Linus Torvalds,
John Oliver,
Jim Jefferies, etc.). The fact that he founded companies in the US is another matter, and those companies would, of course, have strong ties to the US and, therefore, use MDY dates accordingly. I'm surprised this is even up for debate.
Getsnoopy (
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21:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)reply
It's up for debate because the established date format in the article was mdy. The only non-mdy date was in the retrieved date of the second reference (yyyy-mm-dd), which is the format that the visual editor always uses. So, there was a single inconsistency, and none at all in the article body itself.
As far as strong national ties to Switzerland is concerned, according to the article, he was born there, moved to France as a boy, moved to Canada at about the age of 21, and moved the next year to the US. None of his notability derives from Europe, but rather from the US and somewhat in Canada. As far as the examples you gave, Bernera-Lee, Torvalds, and Oliver all had significant activity in Europe before coming to the US (although Torvalds possibly not so much). I don't know which Jim Jeffries you were referring to. So they are not really comparable examples.
Indyguy (
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23:34, 24 August 2021 (UTC)reply
That's the thing; I'm not arguing about what the established date format was; I'm saying that through strong ties, it should be DMY. Strong ties has to do with the topic of the article itself (the person), not the person's notability or where they achieved it. Hence, I gave examples of Torvalds and Oliver, both of whom would not warrant a Wiki article given their notability at that point in their career when they were in Europe. Even Berners-Lee, though he invented the WWW while in Europe, did not do much else there; he soon thereafter moved to Massachusetts in the US to establish the W3C and such. Regardless, the point is that strong ties has nothing to do with where a person achieved fame, but where they are from or what nationality they are. I updated the link to the proper Jim Jefferies. Another example of this
Christian Bale, and I could keep going with the examples.
Getsnoopy (
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17:51, 25 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I think you're overlooking the fact that Chevrolet lived 100 years ago, a time when the distances between continents were more formidable. The examples you cite are alive now, a time when one can easily get from Europe to America several times a week if necessary and the internet has diminished the importance of national borders. Again, Chevrolet spent almost all his adult life in the US and his significant activities were there. I just don't think that his supposed strong national tie to Switzerland or France is substantial enough to overturn the existing use of mdy dates.
Indyguy (
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22:01, 25 August 2021 (UTC)reply