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This bio, though concise, seems to be well on its way to meeting the criteria for GA status. (For the record, I started this review offline on FEB12 and am copying/pasting it into the form today, FEB14.)
DarjeelingTea (
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02:15, 15 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Well-written
No links need DAB’ing.
Per
WP:LEADLENGTH, the lede for an article of this length should be “one or two paragraphs”. Generally, I think this lede goes into too much detail as well.
Per
WP:MOS we need to use logical quotation for commas (and periods). Some commas (and periods) in the article need to be moved outside quotation marks.
Sorry, for instance, this - As editor of the Press, Seltzer emphasized the public service aspect of the paper and "vigorously developed the notion that his reporters were watchdogs for the public over political and governmental affairs." - should read like this - As editor of the Press, Seltzer emphasized the public service aspect of the paper and "vigorously developed the notion that his reporters were watchdogs for the public over political and governmental affairs". See
MOS:LQ.
DarjeelingTea (
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03:06, 15 February 2017 (UTC)reply
I believe the “W” here should be lower-case? in The Wall Street Journal, "With Mr. Seltzer
Which "W" do you mean? In either case, I respectfully disagree. The "W" in "Wall" is part of a proper noun, and the "W" in "With" is at the start of a sentence.
Bobnorwal (
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03:00, 15 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Earwig shows some potential copyvio issues:
[1]. This seems largely inadvertent, however, to be thorough maybe just the first, second, and last paragraphs need a very slight adjustment. (The quotes are obviously okay and the other instances are 3-4 word phrases that can only be expressed one way.)
“Early life and career” – all claims supported by RS and verified (Cleveland State University and “The Dictionary of Cleveland Biography” [offline, but confirmed])
“Editorship of the Cleveland Press” – all claims supported by RS and verified (F. Lee Bailey book, James Ness book, WaPo, and LIFE, plus previously cited sources)
“Later life and death” – all claims supported by RS and verified (sources previously cited, and some others checked)
No dead external links.
Neutrality
Good job acknowledging both early praise and later criticism.
Stability
No evidence of edit-warring. No active disputes on Talk page.
Images
An additional image would be nice but if we don’t have it, we don’t have it.
I agree. I've been looking since I started writing this article, but although the Cleveland Memory Project has a bunch of nice ones, they are all under a license that require us to mark them as "fair use" and therefore can only be used sparingly, like at the top of an article to illustrate the article's subject, as I've done with the lone picture in this article.
Bobnorwal (
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03:11, 15 February 2017 (UTC)reply
I did a Google search, and checked JSTOR, and the treatments I’ve found of Sheppard largely mirror this one for topicality; it doesn’t seem we’re missing any major themes or facts.
I’m somewhat concerned that the Coverage of Sheppard murder may be undue as a percentage of the article’s total length. Could some of this be moved into the linked article? This isn’t a commandment, just a point of discussion. Maybe it shouldn’t.
I see where you're coming from. I struggled a little with how much to write about the Sheppard trial as I was writing this article. I argue, though, that the portion of this article that is about that shenanigans compares favorably to the coverage of the trial in the sources. Of all the things mentioned in this article, that trial is by far the most widely covered. There are several books about it, and as far as I can tell, all of them talk about Seltzer. I DO have plans to eventually expand the article about the Cleveland Press, and some of the stuff from this article might fit over there. I'd be a-okay with that solution. What'd ya think?
Bobnorwal (
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03:37, 15 February 2017 (UTC)reply
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