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According to [1], the Hackleburg tornado was an EF3+ with wind speeds of at least 180 miles an hour. For those of you who are familiar with the enhanced Fujita scale (which I believe is most of you), I think you already see the problem. So, what are we to put in the article? Do we assume they put down the wrong wind speed, the wrong rating, or do we do something else entirely? Discuss. Inferno, Lord of Penguins 20:58, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The tornado has been upgraded to an EF5: http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=BMX&product=PNS&issuedby=BMX Sqlman ( talk) 23:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey, who put those ratings up for April 25? Ratings on those tornadoes are wrong. Memphis never rated the Crockett/Collierville storms and Nashville never rated Stewart. You need to cite your ratings... tornadoes did occur but they have rated them yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.50.95.2 ( talk) 22:37, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
is the Tuscaloosa to Birmingham tornado ever goan be rated? its ben 4 days and its stil a EF? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freiza667 ( talk • contribs) 03:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't the times in the chart/table be in the # : ## Format. ie no leading 0(zero) and : between hours and minutes?
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another EF1 tornado hit Putnam and Hancock Counties in Georgia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.36.199.145 ( talk) 20:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
in-line citations should be added for all tornadoes; the list of sources at the bottom of each day's events is not the best method of referencing - as it forces anyone checking the accuracy (and updatedness) of any tornado to try to figure out where the confirmatory source may be found. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Smithville (MS) tornado is the same as the Shottsville (AL) one. NWS satellite analysis Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I've changed this twice, so I feel it deserves further discussion. This article from NOAA was published yesterday and contains a preliminary count of significant tornadoes. Someone has added these numbers to the tornado chart instead of using the numbers we have here. I believe this is wrong, but more importantly inconsistent. First off, there's nothing to say that their higher numbers aren't wrong. Secondly, and more likely IMHO, those numbers were correct, but now since many tornadoes split between different Weather Forecast Offices are being consolidated, they have since gone down. I believe it is more consistent and correct to use our numbers which we have compiled from the various National Weather Service office sources for the total number of tornadoes. However, I am willing to listen to dissenting opinions. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 07:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
The past two days, I've added a slew of confirmed weaker tornadoes from the Shevreport, Atlanta, Little Rock, Knoxville and Jackson offices (probably a few others) though I did had the chance to look at DFW, the Carolina and Virginia and areas further north. So just be on the lookout for continous numerous confirmations, I didn't update the tornado count (I've lost the count anyways because there were too many), but it might be over 200 confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.155.90 ( talk) 23:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Today I've added more from DFW as well as Huntsville, Paducah, Little Rock, State College and Washington D.C offices. So probably I've added another 25 or so tornadoes confirmed especially from the DFW office. 66.130.155.90 ( talk) 22:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
After looking through the NWS reports and their recently published map for the outbreak, I can definitely say that the EF4 Ringgold tornado started in Georgia and not Alabama (listed as starting in DeKalb CO in the article). I'd rather let someone who has a good grasp on the structure of this list rather than jump into this mess myself. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 17:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
MANY confirmed tornadoes on here have incorrect times. There are several where the person who added it simply miscalculated for UTC-to-local conversion, and some others where I have no idea what the person was doing. I am going to fix out-of-order ones, but I really don't have time to go through all 200 confirmed tornadoes to check the time. So others, just keep an eye out please.
Helpful note for future reference: to get UTC add 5 hours to local time for central time zone (TX, LA, MS, AL, Tennessee--ONLY Memphis and Nahsville WFOs) and add 4 hours for eastern time zone (all others). Check out File:National-atlas-us-time-zones.png if you are unsure. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 05:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
There were 2 torndo touchdowns in Kentucky on April 27. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/?n=apr27_2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.172.48.144 ( talk) 22:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
NWS Morristown seems to show one EF4 in and around the Bledsoe County area. Both EF4 entries in the table seems to show the same number of fatalities which gives me an impression that it is a duplication or maybe it's the NWS that forgot to indicate the track. The hour-differential is 5 hours between the two, so one of them might have the CDT time instead of UTC. Will wait for comments before removing if it's actually a duplicated entry. 66.130.155.90 ( talk) 14:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be a second tornado during the morning that have probably struck some of the same or close to the same areas that were hit later by the EF4 in the afternoon. Initially I thought it was a time mistake by NWS BMX since they gave that tornado a possible EF4 rating but it looks to be a separate one. THE PNS said at least EF3 because of a home that was swept off its foundation near the start of the track. They have been listed separately so far. Many of the morning tornadoes have hit areas close to the afternoon tracks so it might confuse some. 66.130.155.90 ( talk) 14:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
As you have might noticed, I've fixed the tables in chronological orders per state affected by first tornadoes and also put all the individual tornadoes per state in chronological order as there were a lot of mixed-up. I haven't touched the ones with the unknown times in some of the states for now. Also, I've removed a bunch of EF? entries especially in Alabama where they might have well being already confirmed as part of longer tornado tracks especially the ones in western/northern Alabama. Finally I don't know what's the problem with reference 54 but it is given an error in the footnotes. 66.130.155.90 ( talk) 17:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Okay, because that NWS office this is really messing up the table on the 27th. A lot of their surveys does not include the length nor the time. The Tennesseee list probably has close to 15-20 tornadoes with unknown paths and/or times. There might have been some duplications or I forgot some or some have their EF scales changed. I don't known right now, it is all messed up and before today I've actually relied on their PNS bulletins. Eventually, I guess this will be sorted up once the data will be finalized in a few months once it will be in the NCDC. 66.130.155.90 ( talk) 21:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Meanwhile in Marshall and Madison Counties in Alabama, I have completely lost track of the number of tornadoes in both of those counties, so it is possible that there might have been duplications. 66.130.155.90 ( talk) 21:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I am having difficulty determining which tornadoes in the table are referenced by this Associated Press news story: http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2011-05-01-Severe%20Weather-Two%20Twister%20Family/id-213464c420e341da807ce4c89748f519
Two separate tornadoes followed the same path in Jackson County on April 27th, striking ten hours apart, the first one killing a woman, the second one killing two more relatives. In the interval between the two killer tornadoes, a third tornado passed the same overhead without touching down.
Any ideas which tornadoes in the table correspond to this AP story?
This item says the first victim died in the morning of April 27th: http://blog.al.com/ht/2011/05/kathy_gray_haney_pisgah_tornad.html
It seems like these details would merit mention in the table, if I knew the correct tornadoes associated with the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biturica ( talk • contribs) 21:14, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.srh.noaa.gov%2Fimages%2Flzk%2Fpdf%2FStormsof2011.pdf LZK never added it to their list and said in an events article that it was strong winds and not a torado. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.26.145 ( talk) 02:39, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that this article lists a few killer tornadoes on April 28, but the SPC annual fatal tornado summary lists these tornadoes on April 27. Why are the same tornadoes listed on different dates? TornadoLGS ( talk) 16:12, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
There are several script errors in the April 27 and 28 tables regarding path length and touchdown coordinates. They look fine when you're in the editing window, but as soon as you save the page it gives the errors. The April 25 and 26 tables do not have this problem. Anybody know how to fix it? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 20:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
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