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On 20 January 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of the first LGBT holders of political offices to List of the first openly LGBT holders of political offices. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Changed the item from transgender to transsexual - there is a minor difference, but that is how she refers to herself.
Cheers! Lauren ♫/ ∆ 05:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure either should be on the list. To my knowledge neither has publicly said "I am gay/bisexual", they've only admitted to experiences. And neither's own page is in any LGBT categories. Applying labels neither seems to be using doesn't feel right. Timrollpickering 00:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
If a source is not listed soon for the living individuals on this list, they will need to be removed so as to avoid possible civil action. Dethlock99 ( talk) 18:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
While both Klaus Wowereit and Ole von Beust are mayors of their cities, their positions makes them at the same time the governor of their states (which consists only of the respective cities). Maybe this should be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Collie ( talk • contribs) 23:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it a political position. It's included for other countries apart from UK. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-10810.html Adrian Fulford is the first if we include it. Hrcolyer ( talk) 17:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
What about Maureen Colquhoun? Or did she come out after leaving office? Hrcolyer ( talk) 17:34, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Here's a question for those of you better at this sort of thing than I: Toni Atkins, who is openly lesbian, was acting mayor of San Diego following the resignation of the mayor and deputy mayor in 2005. She served from July of that year until the present mayor, Jerry Sanders, was sworn in in December. While recognizing the accomplishment of the mayor-elect of Houston, I think it's important to note that Toni was in fact the mayor of a large city (San Diego isn't as big as Houston, sure), and had done so over four years ago. If this is a list of firsts, shouldn't that be recognized as such? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.138.15 ( talk) 06:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to edit my own post here to note that I'm looking back at the history, and see that Toni was listed previously. Again, though, it seems to me that if this is a list of firsts, then Toni's name should remain, since it was earlier. But I defer to the gods of Wikipedia for their thoughts. Not that I have a vested interest in it, outside of being a San Diego County resident and very proud of our county seat!
I just want to note here that I removed the information relating to the date that Joanne Conte obtained sex reassignment surgery. Surely that info is relevant and interesting on her personal page. However, this page is a list of LGBT people who attained political office - noting that she identifies as a trans woman should suffice (note also I replaced "transwoman" with "trans woman"). Trans persons may have surgery at different periods in their lives depending on a multitude of factors, including the ability to afford the surgery or having access to a quality surgeon. Some may choose not to have the surgery at all. For one to label each trans person here according to when or whether they had the surgery seems to me awkward and distracting. Why should one discuss the status of a politician's genitals on a page merely dedicated to the fact that they were elected? Obviously this is an entirely subjective opinion on which reasonable people could disagree, but if others agree then I would hope this could be the adopted standard for this page. Yavanna of Valinor ( talk) 07:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Why does this sentence not say that these are out LGBT people? There have been totally closeted people and they're not on the list, right?
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The table lists Name, Years, Nation, Office, and Note. Wouldn't it be appropriate to list also the person's category in the LGBTQ+ spectrum? That is, whether they came out as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender?
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This could be done compactly by using just the initial: L, G, B, or T. --
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
List of the first LGBT holders of political offices → List of the first openly LGBT holders of political offices – I know some people find 'openly gay' and the like to be deprecated, but I think this should distinguish between office-holders who are out, and those who aren't - the latter are not included in this article. (RM prompted by this removal). AFreshStart ( talk) 17:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
The notes states that Bettel (of Luxembourg) was the "first gay prime minister", while Varadkar (of Ireland) was the "first openly gay prime minister". However Bettel also appears to be openly gay and, besides, being open before or during your term is a requirement to be included on the list. Why the difference in wording, then? Obviously only one should be noted as the first. Also, while it's not noted in this page, the article about Elio Di Rupo (of Belgium) claims that he was the "first openly gay man to be head of government in modern times", so that would be a further competing claim. Daydreamers ( talk) 09:25, 18 July 2022 (UTC)