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Orthodox Christmas is not January 6th. In Russia they celebrate Christmas on January 7th but that is only because December 25th in the Julian Calendar, the calendar the Russians and some other Orthodox use for religious purposes, falls on January 7th. But Orthodox Christmas is the 25th of December on both the Julian and Gregorian calendars. If you use the Julian calendar however Christmas will fall on the 7th of January on the Gregorian calendar as I already said. The Orthodox Church does not have a seperate Christmas from the 25th of December.did you know christmas is the day Jesus was born and died
Apart from the spelling mistake in the title, I think this is a hopelessly POV page. -- Tarquin 15:28, 7 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I think this page might be better served by being called, for example, "Festivals that occur near the Winter Solstice" or something of the sort. Christmas itself would then be included. - Montréalais 17:55, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
It's not a Celtic word, anyway. It's Germanic. Evertype 13:53, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC)
So why are All Saints Day (December 1) and St. Nicholas' Day (December 6) listed here when they are only nominally holidays, rather than celebrated with festivals, and they occur in the Fall? Winter starts on or about December 21 each year. You might as well list Saint Swithin's Day (July 15). 71.254.253.7 ( talk) 00:53, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone actually celebrate this? If not, I suggest a "fictional" catagory, to which I can add Hogswatchnight 8-). Daibhid C 18:48, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
On 27 December 1831 Charles Darwin set forth in the HMS Beagle. This was an "On this day" article for 2006-12-27. I mentioned to a friend that it was yet another Winter festival... Googling does yield a few instances of Beaglemas greetings. Enough to list it here as a secular holiday? :-) -- Evertype· ✆ 13:35, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Mh.. I protected the page beacuse it was ongoing vandalism. I semiprotected first but the anonymous kpet vandalizing... sorry if this was wrong... but as you can see from the history the vandalism was going on even with the semi-protection -- Legion fi 08:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't Kwanzaa be included? Luis Dantas ( talk) 16:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
From what I understand Halloween is a fall festival, not a winter festival. So what is it doing on this list? Can anybody clarify it's purpose for being here? Nomardll769 ( talk) 00:37, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Chalica is listed under fictional holidays. It may be a newly created holiday but it is NOT fictional. It was created by real people in the real world, and is celebrated by real people in the real world. I'd move it myself, but I'm not sure where it should go. PLEASE fix this! musicalmeg20 ( talk) 05:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Groundhog day is assuredly a winter festival. It seems to be a modern evolution from Candlemas day. See the movie, it is great. I will add it later when I have a bit more time. -- Marcwiki9 ( talk) 22:51, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Hmm..I would include Christmas as a secular holiday as well (unless the intent of the article is to have mutually exclusive celebrations, which also doesn't seem right). Many secular or non-religious people celebrate Christmas in a secular way (Christmas tree, Christmas lights, presents, mythology of Santa etc). Buzzbo ( talk) 03:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
It is clearly stated on the Halloween page that Hallowe'en originates from all hallows ever which is the night before All Saints Day, which should thus make it religious holiday rather than secular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.145.5 ( talk) 06:35, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Rookiemark ( talk) 19:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC)I do not agree. All Saints day is November 1 which is a religious holiday or Holy day. All hallows eve is not based on religion and is not a "holy day" making it a secular event. It not a day when regular work activities are suspended so it is not "holiday" either. It is just a fun day. In contrast, Thanksgiving day is a day when regular work activities are suspended as a holiday. No religious events are associated with it. It is a day when people gathered to give thanks to people, hard-work and grace of their God. Thus one could argue it is a secular holiday where people of all faiths gather to be thankful for what they have (and not regretful or jealous of what they do not have). Rookiemark ( talk) 19:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
As just mentioned, Halloween, Christmas, and Thanksgiving could be argued as being secular or not. Under the thanksgiving page, no where is the word secular even mentioned. It's silly to have a secular label, because every holiday can be celebrated in a secular way. I would suggest removing the secular label and defining a more precise labeling system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.82.8.0 ( talk) 18:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm thinking that maybe this article should be renamed to something along the lines of "List of holidays and festivals", as it is being expanded to include non-winter Festivals.
-- 82.34.243.21 ( talk) 21:32, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
"In many English-speaking countries, the period of time around the winter solstice is known as the holiday season". What absolute nonsense. In the UK and Ireland it is called "Christmas", even by atheists. In Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, winter is nowhere near most of the festivals listed in this article, so it's hardly holiday season. Essentially, "many English-speaking countries" should be replaced by "the United States and possibly Canada". Bazonka ( talk) 18:50, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Should this: http://www.agnostica.com/ be added?... (probably to secular rather than fictional, since I think there are actually people who celebrate it to some extent...) Tamtrible ( talk) 00:56, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
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I tried to make a redirect request here: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Redirects/2013-12#Redirect_request:_December_holidays_.2C_end_of_year_holidays_.2C_winter_holidays and it got ignored. This seems like... a particularly timely redirect request, as people may be trying right now to figure out things like "My friend is of X religion, what holiday can I wish her a nice one of?"... Tamtrible ( talk) 18:19, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
This article has become basically a completely arbitrarily collected list of festivals from all around the calendar year, ranging from the Northern Hemisphere's harvest-timed festivals to its winter solstice-timed festivals, then it has the Southern Hemisphere festivals in July, and also a strange "Winter festivals in popular culture" section, which is really just fictionalized versions of Christmas from TV shows, a common trope as noted at TVTropes.org. And the "Other calendars" section is just a mess.
Either this article should just be renamed to "List of festivals and holidays" and expand to include virtually all festivals and holidays, or be more specific and include either only festivals around the winter solstice, during the winter season, during the harvest season, or whatever users here want to decide. Maybe it could be separated into various articles. The current state of the article with its current title and current listings just doesn't make any sense. I'd love to have talk about this with others here before making any changes, but if no one joins the discussion I will take the bold initiative to do something about it one way or another. Crumpled Fire ( talk) 14:47, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
And Easter, too. They'd all go in the "moveable" section, most likely, though if they always or almost always fall within the same month, you can place them appropriately (donno, not Jewish).
And, the last bit in the "moveable" section... doesn't quite seem in keeping with the rest of the list.
I think the major Islamic holidays are missing, too (like Ramadan). Tamtrible ( talk) 06:36, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Easter isn't in Winter, very often, and neither are a lot of the religious festivals on here - Winter starts generally in December (1st or 21st) and finishes Feb 28/9 or March 21st - so why loads of festivals from October-Nov are on here I don't know Dharkus ( talk) 09:38, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
Freezing Man, at least, seems inappropriate. Some of the rest I can see keeping (because of immigration, if nothing else--probably better to err on the side of not being too strict, probably better to have too much information than not enough), but there are a few others that could reasonably be argued. Tamtrible ( talk) 00:17, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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Most/all of the "movable" holidays happen at *roughly* the same time of year (at least, the ones we have listed seem to). Some are listed only in "movable", some are listed only in the general month list, some are listed both places.
We really ought to do, at least roughly, the same thing with all of them.
The options, as I see them: A. Any that have an approximate month, list only in that month, with the range listed. Use "movable" only for holidays that, eg, precess throughout the year because they're on a lunar calendar that never gets corrected to match the seasons (I think Ramadan's like that)
B. List in both places if applicable, with a full description in the month and a brief note in "movable".
C. List in both places if applicable, with a brief note in the month and a full description in movable
D. List them only in "movable", though perhaps breaking it into winter/spring/summer/fall/unfixed rather than leaving all "movable" holidays grouped only by religion/source culture.
Opinions? Tamtrible ( talk) 10:31, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
If someone doesn't state some kind of opinion on this topic, I'm going to pick one. Probably C. Tamtrible ( talk) 06:39, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Yom HaAtzmaut, Yom HaShoah and YomHaZikaron are not jewish holidays. They are holidays in Israel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HarelKarni ( talk • contribs) 08:18, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Dec. 1 is World AIDS Day — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crow60 ( talk • contribs) 01:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Judging from /info/en/?search=Boxing_Day
I think that Mid-Autumn Festival should be included given that it is the second most important East Asian festival after Lunar New Year according to its wikipedia page. /info/en/?search=Mid-Autumn_Festival
It would be under moveable since it follows the Lunar calendar and usually falls in September or October.
24.38.252.13 ( talk) 03:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)Justin Gomez
1. How aggressive should we be about removing non-multinational holidays? And can someone confirm for me whether or not these actually are non-multinational?
The ones I see so far:
Juneteenth : 19 June (US-only, afaik)
Columbus Day: 12 October or the second Monday in October (likewise)
Indigenous Peoples' Day: the second Monday in October (likewise)
Calan Gaeaf: 1 November – the first day of winter in Wales (is this celebrated anywhere besides Wales?)
Guy Fawkes Night: 5 November – celebrated in the UK commemorating the anniversary of the Gunpowder Plot (UK-only, afaik)
Maaveerar Naal: 27 November: Remembrance day observed by Sri Lankan Tamils in honour of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. (sounds pretty uninational to me)
Yom Ha'atzmaut: Israeli Independence Day (again, single nation)
2. Can someone please try to add dates to the dateless entries, and properly flag the "movable" ones?
The problem children I see:
Losar: Sometime in February (Moveable) (not listed in the "moveable", presumably because it's only in February, but if that's the case, it shouldn't have the "moveable" tag)
Sapta-Bipta (Maithil worship festival Sapta Mai worship) (also has bad links)
Holi (Hindu holiday in honor of Lord Vishnu)
Rama Navami: birth of the god Rama
Hanuman Jayanti: typically a week after Rama Navami, in honour of the birth of Hanuman
Gangaur: occurring in April, in honour of the victory of Goddess Mahagauri
Maithil: occurring in April, Joor-seetal First day of Mithila calendar
Yom HaShoah
Lag BaOmer
Vesak: Buddha's Birthday – celebrated on Vesak Full Moon by most buddhists. (some indication of where that falls on the Julian calendar would be good...)
Yom HaZikaron
Yom Ha'atzmaut: Israeli Independence Day
Raib-Shain Paavein Worship of Sun and Saturn god (also, bad link)
We Tripantu
Ratha Yatra: procession of Vishnu
Asalha Puja: Dhamma Day a Day When First Time Buddha gave Dhamma (updesh) To his First Five Sermons It Celebrate on full moon Day of Ashaldh
Guru Purnima: a reverential day in honour of all teachers and instructors.
Devshayani Ekadashi: solemnity of the repose of Vishnu, coincides with the first day of the highly inauspicious Chaturmas season.
Raksha Bandhan: a festival commemorating filial love.
Krishna Janmashtami: birth anniversary of Krishna.
Onam: a festival of Kerala, India.
Simchat Torah
Navratri: celebrates the conquest of Goddess Durga
Kartik Purnima: An additional commemoration of the Celestial Diwali, or the "Diwali of the Gods"; hence the Sanskrit appellation "Dev Diwali", in honour of Vishnu, Kartikeya and Goddess Ganga.
Mōdraniht: or Mothers' Night, the Saxon winter solstice festival.
Dongzhi Festival – a celebration of Winter
Navratri: The great nine nights of the Goddess Durga, commemorating Her victory against the demon Mahish Navratri: The great nine nights of the Goddess Durga, commemorating Her victory against the demon Mahishasura.
Kartik Purnima
Onam
Janamashtami
Rama Navami
Maha Shivaratri
Sharad Purnima / Lakshmi Puja / Kali Puja
Vasant Panchami
Malanka caps off the festivities of the Christmas holidays
Maslenitsa in Slavic mythology, a celebration of the imminent end of the winter
Anyone feel up to tackling these? Tamtrible ( talk) 19:22, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Also, all of the Mandaeism entries are under "moveable", but they're on a 365 day calendar, so they should probably have associated Gregorian calendar dates, or at least approximate months (does their calendar have leap days?...)
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Should they be? The only ones that I know are generally treated as secular holidays are Valentine's and St. Patrick's. The rest should, presumably, be listed as "Christian" rather than "Secular". Tamtrible ( talk) 22:00, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
West 2600:1700:E580:2160:B880:F3E:5408:3154 ( talk) 01:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)