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Might be worth mentioning at the start that Trinity is part of the University of Cambridge
"In 1546, Trinity College was founded by Henry VIII, from merging the colleges of Michaelhouse and King's Hall" => "In 1546, Trinity College was founded by Henry VIII, merging the colleges of Michaelhouse and King's Hall"
" then Warden of King's hall" - shouldn't hall have a capital H, like in the previous sentence?
"The Façade of the building" - facade isn't a proper noun so it doesn't need a capital
"Arthur Blomfield expanded the west wing of lodge" => "Arthur Blomfield expanded the west wing of the lodge"
Great Court is linked twice in the lead
(Aside) was the second master known informally as Bill Bill? ;-)
"Vice-Chancellor (1548)" - probably worth making it explicit that he (and others who held this role) was VC of Cambridge, not of some other institution
That's what I got. Great work! In fact it's inspired me to get out of my comfort zone of music and football and work on a similar article..... --
ChrisTheDude (
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19:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)reply
You are missing column and row scopes. See PresN's standard comment here for some advice
A number of these names are unnecessarily preceded by a title, while others who do have titles that match what's included don't show them. Try to match the target page's name instead, minus disambiguators of course.
Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. |{{Sortname|John|Redman|dab=Trinity College}} becomes !scope=row |{{Sortname|John|Redman|dab=Trinity College}}. If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
Please see
MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN20:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)reply
MPGuy2824
"appointmented" to "appointed" OR rewrite the sentence to "The role is an official appointment by the monarch, at the recommendation of the college, ..."
Some stats about the shortest and longest tenure would be nice in the lead.
I'll reiterate PresN's point about having a primary cell for each row. I'd recommend the name cell.
According to
[1] William Bill stopped being master of St. John's in 1551, so you can remove the "?" after that year. In the same cell, remove the full stop at the end since this isn't a complete sentence.
Done (appointed) I think the version "The role is an official appointment by the monarch..." doesn't allow for the fact that it is only ceremonial nowadays.
Partially done I added a bit about
Richard Bentley, since his long tenure is significant. (He was charged twice by the fellows, but held the role. The first sentencer died, and the second sentence was meant to be executed by the vice-master, whom he was a friend of.) I didn't think it was interesting enough to talk about the shortest term of office though.
I already have | scope="row" |{{Sortname|First|Last}} on each table row, is that enough, or is there a another way to mark these as primary?
Are you sure? I didn't see this in other featured lists, and I think putting the picture first is better in this case. I made a test edit for now, but I am under the impression that | scope=... is sufficient for screenreader software. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
IntGrah (
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09:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)reply
It has to be a !. The reason is that, for wikicode, ! means a header cell, and | means a regular cell. Scope tags only work on header cells (since they're identifying the header cell for the row). Note, though, that the header cell, oddly, doesn't actually need to be the first cell in the row, so if you want the picture column to be the first one then that's fine. I personally don't like the look, but it's not invalid. --PresN17:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, the highlighted effect on the header cell looks weird when it is the second column. Is the current state fine then? (With the name as the header column)
IntGrah (
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03:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)reply
My first time crossing the floor from FAC to FLC, so here goes:
later becoming President of the Royal Society (1970–1975) (Hodgkin). Suggest cutting becoming; we don't have it or similar in any other context, and it could be used many times in this table.
President of the Royal Society (1950–1955), president of the Royal Society of Medicine (Adrian): why the inconsistent caps?
Suggest spelling out "Vice-Chancellor of Cambridge" as "Cambridge University" (or "of the University"): as written, it sounds like an appointment in city government.
Physician (Haematologist) (Davies): decap haematologist as a job, not a title.
Note 2: I don't see "fionaholland" (claimed author) mentioned on the page. Would advise not giving a username as an author anyway: is there anything linking it to someone presumably called Fiona Holland?
Dashes in the "Furniture History" reference are massive: should be endashes per
MOS:DASH.
Stephen Brewer, Donald Olson (2006) (note 13): name order is at odds with other citations.
Pace the Wikisource editors, looking at the source page, there is definitely a space in "Beaumont, Robert (d.1567)} after the d..
Note 27 should be put into the same style as the other Wikisource links, and hyphen replaced with an endash.
Notes 54 and 55 need endashes where they have hyphens.
Note 64 is shouting at me.
Note 56 is a book, which we have generally given in title case, but the title is given in sentence case.
Ditto 44, which also needs an endash.
Some websites are cited inconsistently: compare notes 66 and 68, both to the Royal Society.
Note 5 needs a correct publisher (which university press?), a volume and perhaps an edition number. Could also link to Chisholm.
Does Beaumont have an article in the ODNB? If so, why cite the old DNB by preference?
The office of the master could be held until the age of seventy, although this could be extended to seventy-five, by decree of the fellowship.: this is phrased in the past tense, but we never say that it has been repealed, or what the current rule is.
The office of the master could be held until the age of seventy, although this could be extended to seventy-five, by decree of the fellowship. There have been 40 appointments to the position:
MOS:NUM advises consistency on words versus figures here.
the second sentence was refused to be carried out by the vice-master, Richard Walker, whom he was a friend of: this is pretty tough going in the passive voice: it would be clearer in the active, I think.
the title is referred to as the master: it's the holder that is referred to as the master.
Although sentenced twice, the first sentencer died before the process began: I'm not sure which process is meant here, or why this would allow him to get off the hook.
Thank you for the review! I went through each of your points and didn't disagree with any of them:
"fionaholland" appears in a <meta name="author" content="fionaholland"/> tag in the HTML. I think it's safe to say that Fiona Holland is the author, so I spelt out her name properly.
Replaced DNB and ODNB web citations with with ODNB templates
I summarised the Bentley feud by dropping the details of the trials – that can be read on the main article.
All of the portraits need alt text added for accessibility
There's a lot of opportunity for more wikilinks in the references you've used. Try to add more where possible, including converting websites listed as the publisher to the actual article that relates to that website.
The page displays a script warning for issues related to {{cite encyclopedia}}, which means it's like an issue with a usage of {{Acad}}, as that's a wrapper template of the encyclopedia template. Please resolve the issue(s).
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IntGrah: These types of references aren't my forte, but I narrowed it down to the usage of {{
acad}} and the |doi-broken-date parameter. I don't know the exact resolution, but I wanted to at least set you on the right path.
Hey man im josh (
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16:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)reply
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Hey man im josh Thanks for pointing me in the direction; I fixed some of the dois on {{
Cite ODNB}} and removed the broken date warnings – hopefully nothing else is wrong. I checked the {{
acad}} references and couldn't find any issues (there's only two params – what could possibly go wrong?)
IntGrah (
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23:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)reply