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Yes you can add an easy billion for box office but it just seems like for the Mario Franchise which is the best selling video game franchise by a landslide 7 billion just seems a bit off i know 2002 and no new sources but why not just take the shipment data from each year after 2002 and multiply it by MSRP? And yes it would be an estimation which that can be said until clearer data could be found but it just seems odd that it has made so little amount of money despite the fact the franchise has many entries in the top 50 best selling games of all time. Now yes there is Nintendo selects that has to be factored in but the quarterly reports are out there. That's just my two cents on the issue.
158.135.169.72 (
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05:03, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Every entry that invents a number by multiplying a price were removed.(this was discussed before) Many brands on the list are missing data. It is what it is.
Timur9008 (
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06:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Why not look at a game like Mario 3D-All stars Nintendo shipped 9.07 units and at a $60 MSRP that comes out to roughly 544.2 million dollars — Preceding
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158.135.169.72 (
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17:11, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
If you may have noticed that article(List of highest-grossing mobile games) has been sent to Draft since its Jagged 85's work. Those sources need to be checked first.
Timur9008 (
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07:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Done although I replaced the $5 billion figure with a $4 billion one from Reuters(a better reference in this case). I believe it was refferng to total reveneue since nowhere it is mentioned its merch sales.
Timur9008 (
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10:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Is it really right to list William Shakespeare as a creator for The Lion King? I know the story is heavily inspired/influenced by Macbeth, but I don't think it's fair to say it is a direct adaptation.
82.26.149.107 (
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13:56, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
The
new film out next month we probably could do it just after that film done it cinemas run we could be waiting years for a another total update do we really want to wait that long
Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (
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21:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Dragon Ball
Most online pages tell, that dragonball grossed above 24 billion. Why did someone edited it to 9 billion here? By now it should be 25 billion or more.
Käsesticks (
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12:13, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, but the thing is, that the dragon ball games alone made several billion dollards in the last few years. Dragonball Dokkan battle and Dragonball Legends together grossed above 4 billion dollards till 2022. I didnt found data on 2023.Im pretty sure, that all Dragonball games combined grossed above 9 billion by now, so how is dragonball as a franchise listed as 9 billion dollars?
Käsesticks (
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17:12, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Sorry but this list is bad and needs to allow estimates to an extent. Mario for example shouldnt be anywhere near that low. Its misleading when this page is linked on other websites because of how unequal this page is when it comes to what data is alowed to be sourced or not.
2600:1011:B054:DD7E:88AE:D373:DBE1:6F21 (
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06:15, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
The list uses estimates (The Licensing Letter sources for example). Also you might to check what the page looked like prior to November 2022
Timur9008 (
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08:46, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Title Max source is List of highest-grossing media franchises Wikipedia page, this article(says at the bottom of the graph)
Timur9008 (
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07:39, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
It lists Wikipedia as the source, but the information doesn't really match the current list and information on the web. I understand the list in Wikipedia is dynamic due to the nature of the information, but One Piece (as an example) is currently above the $12B mark. Errors like this make the listed information seem dubious or inaccurate, so the list needs to reflect its own title for it to be considered reliable.
Serapheid (
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12:23, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
This has already been discussed but the short version is that its
Wikipedia:CITOGENESIS given the numbers on the previous version of this article were inflated by an editor who is now banned.
As far as I'm aware, Type-Moon's Fate falls under the definition of a multimedia franchise (having multiple anime, manga, games, books, drama CDs, games, etc. all consolidated under a single company) and is definitely sitting above $5 billion.
Sorry, I think I've only helped here with basic Wikipedia policy disputes. I don't really know much about how this list has historically compiled, what inclusion criteria has been in place, etc.
Sergecross73msg me16:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Every source I've seen puts One Piece well above 2 billion. It is the highest selling manga of all time. The article on here puts its merchandise alone at 1 billion. It has sold more than 500 million volumes, which passes 2 billion if each volume sells for more than $4. A I missing something?
100.37.197.200 (
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05:33, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Aside from the $1 billion merch figure from 4kids there are no figures mentioning how much the manga grossed for example hence One Piece can't be added.(since the threshold is $2 billion)
Timur9008 (
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09:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Yeah that's not enough for it make the list. Many brands do $1 billion in merch sales annually. Has to be specific(for example, x brand did $1 billion in merch sales in 2004)
Timur9008 (
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02:27, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Grand Theft Auto
Grand Theft Auto seems to be underreported here. GTA grossed 8.33B just in the last 10 years.
I went ahead and updated the GTA V number with the MarketWatch estimated revenue source that's used in the main GTA V article.
Timur9008 (
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06:56, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Dungeon and Fighter
Dungeon and Fighter The total revenue has reached $22 billion.
Since it made $4.83 billion total, $3.8 Billion from Merchandise Sales, $1 Billion from DVD and Blu–Ray Sales, and $300 Million Dollars from Film and Video Game Sales.
23.245.47.124 (
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19:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
does the batman section include video game revenue? if not could someone add it. batman arkham city alone has generated 600 million in revenue according its wikipedia page so its important.
Snowty20000 (
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03:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
the dceu section claims 500 million in merch has been made. the article linked says wonder woman as a character made 500 million to 1 billion but the actual money earned from the film itself was 100 million so why are we counting it as 500? could someone edit that or clarify what counts towards "dceu".
Snowty20000 (
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03:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
the recent insomniac leaks revealed revenue for spiderman milies morales to be 260 million. this should be added to the spiderman game section.
Snowty20000 (
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08:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
The Reuters report cites
SuperData Research. I didn't add League of Legends for this very reason.
This is the same site
[4]. SuperData itself has not been discussed at the reliable sources noticeboard so I'm not if we can use it.
Timur9008 (
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15:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
The $2 billion source for "Lifetime revenue" revenue for GTA IV cites Linkedin which is not a reliable source. I added the mobile revenue but there is no information on the rest.
Timur9008 (
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16:29, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Why not include Pachinko/Pachislot in sales? Hokuto no Ken did $15B since 2002.
Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star) did ~$15b+ in sales in Pachislot / Pachinko sales since 2002.
2017 Sega annual report specifically calls out on page 70 that they sold 2.71 million units of this model. This is the best selling pachi machine of all time that uses any media franchise. Since then they've sold quite a bit more. Average price is not mentioned there, but can be calculated by looking at average pachislot machine sales/units.
Remotayx (
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02:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The source I provided was the annual report of a publicly traded company. Definitely a reliable source. Pachislots/Pachinko sales directly related to a media franchise seems relevant here, no?
Remotayx (
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05:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
X product multiplied by price is what I meant. I believe Pachislots/Pachinko sales are under Retail Sales which there is no number. The source is reliable thought yeah.
Timur9008 (
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05:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Page 43 of annual report, Pachislot and Pachinko Machine Business did 148.2B JPY in sales that year. (stated again on page 51). This is only pachislot/pachinko machines business.
On page 88 we have Pachinko Machine and Pachislot unit sales by year. For 2017 we can see 215,000 pachislot unit sales and 138,000 pachinko unit sales for a total of 353,000 units. Divide this by Pachinko/pachi segment sales for 419,830 jpy per unit. In today's exchange rate that's $2,798. In 2017's exchange rate (112 to the dollar) it's $3,748. The only inaccuracy here is Sega Sammy sells non Hokuto no Ken machines as well, though 'average price' will likely still be an excellent barometer of the real figure. Can easily multiply total unit sales by one of these 'averages'. Anyway, it's just wild how big of a franchise this anime series is if you include Pachinko/pachislot sales. Few understand how big it is!
Remotayx (
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06:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Why aren't the Pokemon GAMES counted towards it's total????
I'm not sure TBH. I added Trolls because I was digging trough DIC Entertainment's old website and finding the $5 billion figure was difficult as it is. I guess we can add a note like Cabbage Patch Kids.
Timur9008 (
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13:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
One Piece is a huge series no doubt but aside from this $1 billion figure from 4kids
[6] and some box office numbers there is nothing to go on.
Timur9008 (
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06:28, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
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Timur9008 i mean... we know its sold at least 500 Million copies, and from what im finding volumes are usually around ¥400, that to usd is $2.64. so we can infer theyve made at least $1.32 Billion from manga sales
Vkoid (
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01:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I don't get the newer versions. Back before November 2022, Mario was roughly around 40 billion. But now it is at 8 billion, and lower than series like Demon Slayer. Stuff like that doesn't make sense to me personally. So why was there this big change starting November 2022?
The Miracle Girls (
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19:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
This was discussed back then. Short version is that the numbers were inflated by an editor who is now banned (
User:Maestro2016)
Ok, fair. Although on that note then, now I'm really confused as to how stuff like Demon Slayer is higher than stuff like Mario. Assuming each copy of 8 Deluxe is sold at full price, that'd be about 3.5 billion dollars. I get reductions for the cost of physical productions, and the game costing less on days like Black Friday (although the Mario Movie was just 1.4 billion, when with reductions due to cost and promotions it'd be about 1.2 billion), but I'd think there'd be enough sales throughout the series to justify the end means.
'assuming full price' is exactly what we can do, as games are discounted over time, or have sales, holiday spikes, etc. Additionally, the full retail price doesn't go to Nintendo alone, so their gross is lower than the bare retail price. The bottom line is we ran into a sourcing issue, and if we can find new suitable sourcing, we'll adjust the numbers upward again. --
ferret (
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15:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Interesting article. And also, every source seems to be saying roughly 30 billion, but none of them got their answer as to where. The earliest I see for that is Titlemax.
The Miracle Girls (
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19:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Title Max source
[7] is List of highest-grossing media franchises Wikipedia page, this article(says at the bottom of the graph)
I think it's beyond any reasonable doubt that "nearly 2 billion" must be at least 1.5 billion. That would still be 2.15b and enough for the list. --
ferret (
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14:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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