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I have been working on a replacement for this page for much longer than I care to admit. I keep finding new information and can't seem to get it exactly like I want. I thought I would discuss this replacement with yawl who already have invested so much time in the existing one. I started with all of the existing information. I have presently increased the number of canals from 52 to 130 with at least 30 more I have to look into. I made the columns sortable and added fields like length, number of locks, and location within France. Any thoughts, suggestions, or comments?
GloverEpp (
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14:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)reply
Looks good to me, nice work! Some minor comments: you may want to check the title of one of you sources, I don't think "vois" is correct French. The title according to the
Bibliothèque de France is "France : Itinéraires fluviaux". The Sandre database (see
this example is a valuable source as well. Please change the length heading to "navigable length", since most rivers are only partially navigable. And maybe a note for canals that have been abandoned. BTW Petite Saône and Basse Saône aren't canals, they're canalised parts of the river Saône.
MarkussepTalk15:17, 20 April 2010 (UTC)reply
AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG, I misspelled the book title in some 45+ articles. Is there a global change bot available? I agree that some of these entries are not canals, but rather canalized rivers, or in some few cases, just navigatable rivers.
GloverEpp (
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17:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)reply
Great work on the table/list Glover; good job! I'm not sure about the lead though, better to just retain the original in current article as I don't think the "instructions" are necessary or appropriate. I'm trying to think of better wording for the "Connected body" column headings but I've not come up with anything yet. But these are minor points and I think you should be
WP:BOLD and just go ahead and replace the table in the article.
Nancy talk16:24, 21 April 2010 (UTC)reply
It's not for lack of boldness that I am postponing. I have built it in Excell and its a lot easier to make global changes there than in Wiki.
GloverEpp (
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17:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)reply
In Excel? that's clever. How do you convert it to Wiki-markup - I'd do a lot more tabulation if I had an easy way to do it.
Nancy talk08:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)reply
I replaced this entire article, increasing the number of canals from 52 to 144. I added sort capability, length, number of locks, and approximate location within France. As with everything, it is not perfect.
Hi Gloverepp, I see you reverted my deletion of "L'Aff" as an alternative name. I don't see the river name on the
linked map you mentioned in your comment. Anyway, the "l'" version is just with the article, like "the Thames", not an alternative name.
MarkussepTalk14:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)reply
I see the name now, but ACME also uses L'Oust, La Vilaine, La Loire, La Maine, La Vienne, Le Cher etc. etc. That's the article, not part of the name.
MarkussepTalk18:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)reply