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Hello fellow Wikipedians,
Just today I realized that it will good thing to change the table from 50 games to a 100. The reason behind it is that majority of those games in List of best-selling video games are franchises. I have a feeling that instead of removing games every time it gets over 50 such as in this edit, it will be better to add games to the table. As a courtesy, the discussion regarding my proposition can be found on my talkpage.
Regards,
-- Biografer ( talk) 01:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
I only offered it as an alternative suggestion. But now that I think more about it, do we know approximately how many games have sold 10 million? If it were under 100, then I would suggest we list by that instead of any arbitrary ranking cap. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 06:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm wondering why on any of these lists I am unable to find the simple yet vitally important distinction between the main subsets in game-play categories of FIRST-PERSON ONLY, THIRD-PERSON ONLY, and BOTH FIRST AND THIRD PERSON OPTIONS AVAILABLE!
This to me seems like a VERY important fundamental of any game to miss. Whenever I look for a game - and I am looking for certain games based SOLELY on these criteria - it sometimes takes me over an hour to figure out which of the three above categories any particular game might be included in, (except of course if it states "first-person shooter" under GENRE - unless again of course the third-person option is ALSO available in the same game yet has completely been ignored).
In my opinion "shooter game" is one thing, as is "role play" or "fighting", and 'first-person", "third-person", or "BOTH first AND third" options of game-play are completely another.
I absolutely appreciate the fact of there being any comprehensive comparison game-lists in existence at all, yet somehow I feel this type of more detailed categorization might have long ago become a standard template for anyone looking to get themselves a new game without running the all too real risk of buying one they then find completely unplayable because it does not fit their criteria for a compelling and immersive experience.
I'm sorry I don't have the time to do this myself.
My humble suggestions for a more detailed breakdown of game fundamentals might be as follows...
GAME-PLAY FORMAT... ⚫ Open World ⚫ Semi-Open World ⚫ Linear
(Sub categories here might include "linear story line mission/quests" and "random order multiple outcomes and endings", just to name a couple).
GAME-PLAY EXPERIENCE... ⚫ First Person ⚫ Third Person ⚫ Top Down ⚫ Side Scrolling or Side View (I'm really not familiar with the proper terms here). ⚫ Character Building
Other... (whatever else there is out there that might be included in some of the lists here).
Whenever I personally look for a game I am basically looking for TWO specific things I can never find on any proper list... Is it an OPEN WORD GAME, and does it have a THIRD-PERSON OPTION? Weather it's a shooter or an RPG is secondary to me - I'll play anything as long as it's in an explorable open world environment, and unfortunately "first-person only" games make me dizzy and nauseous so I am unable to enjoy them in the least. (It's so sad I can't play any of the Open Far Cry Worlds, they look like so much fun to me).
Please help. I think we could all use some good game-lists with a little more detailed basic information in them. (I'm going to post this on a couple of other game-list's "talk pages", which also weren't able to help me find the kinds of games I am specifically looking for).
⚫ Kuyoti ( talk) 13:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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roblox not on list fortnite not on list 96.230.48.100 ( talk) 12:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
@ Dissident93: Regarding this edit note, I would say it's "50 games" not "50 ranks". But no strong feeling. -- ferret ( talk) 22:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Pete Hines said on twitter a long time ago that Fallout 4 is now their most successful games and it's not on this list since Skyrim is listed @ 30 Mil I would suggest fallout 4 to be put at 30,5 Mil
[1] Yustforfun ( talk) 21:05, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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As of 1 October 2018 the latest published sales figures for Terraria stand at 25,000,000 [1]. The article currently lists their sales as 20,000,000. This is significant as it jumps the game from 32nd to joint 18th - which is a large leap upwards!
Sampoirier26 ( talk) 14:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
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The developer and publisher fields of the article for Terraria are listed as 'Re-Logic' but do not link to the Re-Logic Wikipedia page: /info/en/?search=Re-Logic, they should be updated to link there.
Sampoirier26 ( talk) 14:23, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
The last of us isn't a multi platform game, it's a playstation exclusive game
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Change the last of us from multi platform to playstation exclusive JustynHart ( talk) 07:01, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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Add Diablo 3 to the list. 79.178.105.28 ( talk) 21:25, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Yesterday Ubisoft released their Q3 earnings and in that conference stated that R6 Siege has 40 Mill users and For honor 15 Mill
[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yustforfun ( talk • contribs) 02:36, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
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Tetris sales need to be updated. RedstoneMCGamer ( talk) 15:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
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Diablo III 93.31.6.251 ( talk) 23:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Witcher 3 Wild Hunt has sold 33 million copies by the end of 2017.
Sources: /info/en/?search=The_Witcher_3:_Wild_Hunt#cite_ref-Harradence-Mar2018_103-0 /info/en/?search=The_Witcher_3:_Wild_Hunt#cite_ref-Wccftech-Mar2018_104-0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mawerick mc ( talk • contribs) 15:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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I'm trying to edit what you've gotten wrong. Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 is now the 8th most sold game of all time. Theblackhawk555 ( talk) 21:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
in this list, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017 and 2018 all have best-selling games, but why theres not a single game from 2015? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.54.76.66 ( talk) 17:57, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Diablo 3 has sold at least 30M copies. Source is Blizzard's quarterly reports for second-quarter 2015, page 3:
"Diablo III has now sold-through over 30 million units life-to-date globally."
This is also cited on the Wikipedia page for Diablo 3.
I am new to Wikipedia, please excuse me if I have made this section incorrectly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warsage ( talk • contribs) 00:52, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow The title is wrong. There are 4 versions (Red, Green, Blue and Yellow) by source. 180.217.152.92 ( talk) 10:13, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Several times are now combining years worth of remakes and ports as a single title. Pokemon and Super Mario 64 are the two primary examples. Is this what we should be doing here?
Can we really say Pokemon Blue/Red/Yellow are the "same" game as FireRed/LeafGreen and the Let's Go! switch releases? -- ferret ( talk) 12:58, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
I have completed unbundling/reversing the changes from Jan 2019 that did this. There's two that I did not do yet, want more opinions: Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus, as well as Sun/Moon and Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon. -- ferret ( talk) 17:04, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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-- 2003:C6:E728:6086:D16A:523B:245A:141E ( talk) 21:46, 3 January 2019 (UTC) This is a adjusted quotation of a YouTube video about the best selling video games of all time: Many consoles has a variant of Tetris on it. The list of best-selling video games claims that Tetris itself developed by Elektronorgtechnica and published by Spectrum HoloByte has sold 170,000,000 times. People are considering the entire Tetris franchise as one game and thus justifying it being the best-selling video game of all time. Here's my problem with this statement: Yes, there have been multi-platform variants of Tetris that are considered the same video game but on a different platform. Tetris on the NES and Nintendo Game Boy is the easiest example of this. These are basically the same games on different platforms. But would you consider Tetris DS, Tetris Splash, Tetris Battle Gaiden, Puyo Puyo Tetris, 3D Tetris or any other variant of Tetris the same video game? They all have different visuals, sound design, development teams, modes, gameplay tweak, publishers. I'd argue that some of these different variants of Tetris have more differences of each other than other entries in game series. My point is, I think it's kind of lame that the entire Tetris franchise is considered just one game in the list of best-selling video game while other series are not. Yeah, Tetris Effect is fundamentally the same game at its core as Tetris on the Game Boy but Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus are considered different games on the list.
Pokemon Black, White, Black 2 and White 2 are missing on this list. They have a combined total of approximately 23.45 million sales, placing it between Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart DS. (Pokemon Black and White with 15.64 million, and Black 2 and White 2 with 7.81 million, sources are their respective Wikipedia pages, /info/en/?search=Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White and /info/en/?search=Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_2_and_White_2)
To exclude these from the list would be inconsistent, as Sun/Moon are combined with Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, Red/Green/Blue are combined with Yellow, etc.
-- Tsbuilderboy ( talk) 05:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Overwatch has sold at least 40 Million Copies. sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rge4Wo508U, https://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-has-more-than-40-million-players/ KennethRussell3 ( talk) 04:52, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
I just found out that Minecraft has about 250,000,000 downloads. Since I am new to Wikipedia, I cannot edit this semi-protected page. Please update this, and if you can find a new accurate number of downloads for Tetris, please add that too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zygarderm ( talk • contribs) 16:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
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The game "Mario Kart 8 Deluxe" has sold 16,690,000 units, so it should be added between "The Last of Us Remastered" and "Pokémon X and Y". [1]
70five ( talk) 06:21, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
UPDATE: I just saw Mario Kart 8 and Deluxe are counted as the same game, so ignore this post – I'm new to Wikipedia and don't know how to delete things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70five ( talk • contribs) 06:30, 6 May 2019 (UTC) :/
Borderlands 2 should appears on this list as it has sold 20 millions copies (I didn't find the official source, but don't know where to look for exactly). 134.214.125.35 ( talk) 13:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Bailey, Dustin (May 13, 2019). "Borderlands has sold over 43 million copies". PCGamesN. Retrieved May 13, 2019.
The "170 million downloads" figure seems to be outdated. I'm looking for (actually) official sources to approximate the true number, which is almost certainly not below Minecraft, as suggested here: https://venturebeat.com/2014/04/07/mr-tetris-explains-why-the-puzzle-game-is-still-popular-after-three-decades-interview/ (2016). Dfcorrea00 ( talk) 23:49, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
The number according to the Venture Beat website is 495 million (425 million being paid mobile downloads). Dfcorrea00 ( talk) 23:51, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
https://tetris.com/by-the-numbers This source suggests well over 500 billion, which confirms the previous source. This was updated November of '18, as referenced here: https://videogamesstats.com/tetris-stats-and-facts/ Dfcorrea00 ( talk) 00:02, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Would the Tetris website be too close to a "primary source"? Dfcorrea00 ( talk) 07:11, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
& surely this number is higher after all these years; many articles are sourcing this page to claim Minecraft has surpassed Tetris, which almost certainly has yet to be accomplished. Dfcorrea00 ( talk) 07:17, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
pokemon red blue yellow and green were bundled with 2ds systems some time ago Additionaly pokemon yellow was sold bundled with a gameboy color console in the 90s
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Where is fortnite? It has over 250000000 players 180.150.123.254 ( talk) 12:50, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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A official Diablo III Bundle exists for the Nintendo switch, and so the page should be altered to show this Citation : https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/15/17977968/diablo-3-nintendo-switch-bundle-gamestop https://store.nintendo.co.uk/nintendo-switch-console/nintendo-switch-diablo-iii-limited-edition-bundle/11921413.html Although the bundle most likely hasn’t affected the games overall sales much, the same can be said about Pokémon red/blue/green/yellow, and the last of us/remastered. 194.75.95.235 ( talk) 11:45, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
is not there — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patodesu ( talk • contribs) 02:02, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
It seems like it counts Tetris as one game, despite it being an entire franchise. Games like Tetris 2, Tetris Effect, Tetris DX, Tetris Splash, Tetris Battle Gaiden, Wordtris, and Tetris Attack should not be counted as ports of the same game, because they are different games in the same franchise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid Gamer ( talk • contribs) 02:15, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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Red Dead Redemption 2 has sold about 23 million copies, and should therefore be placed on the list 142.0.55.5 ( talk) 00:47, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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i would like you to add The Witcher 3 to the table. It was confirmed today that the game has sold over 20 million units. 2601:2C6:4580:2946:38FA:9EE2:A9C5:1EB3 ( talk) 03:53, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe entry can be updated. Nintendo announced it has sold 17.89 million copies as of end of June. 167.179.138.164 ( talk) 14:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Please ignore the Microsoft PR spin. Tetris has sold 425 million paid mobile downloads alone. The total is probably well over 500 million copies: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-04-08-tetris-now-at-425-million-paid-mobile-downloads — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.16.147.48 ( talk) 07:18, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
How is this not sufficient? Henk Rogers owns TTC, i.e. The Tetris Company. Therefore, those are official figures. If you doubt those, you should also doubt the official number on Minecraft provided by Microsoft and, consequently, all sales figures that were supplied by companies. That would strike me as rather unreasonable, however. Here's an official press release from Tetris.com, putting the total of mobile downloads at >500 million: https://tetris.com/article/212/happy-anniversary-tetrisreg-ndash-iconic-video-game-brand-celebrates-35-years — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.16.147.48 ( talk) 14:50, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Rainbow Six: Siege; a popular FPS has a total of 45 million sales, yet it is no where to be seen on this list. Official source in this source Ubisoft (The developers of Rainbow: Six Siege) announce they've hit 45 million players! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerph-Plz ( talk • contribs) 00:26, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
As I've just made a few edits to a few games to say that they were indeed also bundled with consoles, and the article has nowhere to really cite these, I thought I'd include links to backup these edits. All of the bundles listed are officially released and not just promotional packages by retailers.
Call of Duty: Black Ops Bundled with a 160GB Playstation 3
Call of Duty: Black Ops II, included with Call of Duty: Ghosts as an Xbox 360 console bundle as well as exclusively by itself in a bundle
Terraria Bundled with one of the Japanese PS Vita 'welcome boxes'
Call of Duty: Ghosts Bundled with Call of Duty: Black Ops II with an Xbox 360 as previously mentioned as well as with an Xbox One
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Bundled with an Xbox One in 2015
All of these are officially released, packaged bundles. Not just retailer deals or unofficial bundles.
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Tetris has been sold 500 million times. if you had just google you would have known.
https://www.google.com/search?q=world+most+sold+games&oq=world+most+seld+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.15728j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/04/19/top-10-best-selling-video-games-of-all-time Martijn1130 ( talk) 18:07, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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The Last of Us has now sold 20 million can someone update this ? Source https://gamingbolt.com/the-last-of-us-has-sold-over-20-million-copies-on-ps4-and-ps3-analyst. 185.203.122.23 ( talk) 20:15, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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Would like to add Uncharted 4 into the list, seeing as how it reached the same sales as the current lowest entry. 2607:F470:6:3001:6867:ED88:8F3:6593 ( talk) 16:38, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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i seem to notice that overwatch and other blizzard titles are not displayed on this list with known sales figures over twenty million 167.98.46.99 ( talk) 08:36, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Considering that only developers and publishers for the original release of each game are listed, Mojang should be cited as the publisher of their own game, especially since Microsoft only bought Mojang in 2014. - Neppale ( talk) 11:28, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Gta sa is sold in 30 milion units MasterMilan26 ( talk) 17:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
There's https://kotaku.com/gta-iv-overtakes-san-andreas-in-lifetime-sales-correct-5840484 and https://web.archive.org/web/20080408234728/http://taketwovalue.com/documents/TTWO_Value.pdf#page=12 already listed on the wikipedia page for san andreas, which give figures of 21 and 17 million respectively. However, this article is from 2011, and the game has since been rereleased on steam, ps4, and xbox 360. 45.72.230.20 ( talk) 23:19, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
According to this article, Pokémon Black/White/Black 2/ White 2 have total sales (>22m), above that of Frogger (~20m) - the sources in that article are https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/ds.html and https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-30-nintendo-cuts-wii-u-sales-forecast-by-1-5-million-says-console-having-a-negative-impact-on-profits
Considering that it sold more units than other games on this list, and other pokémon games like gold/silver/crystal and sun/moon/ultra sun/ultra moon are grouped, I feel it's abscence is a little odd
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The Tetris numbers are referencing sources from 2010.
A newer source (2014, Venture Beat) has the game at 425 million paid downloads and 70 million physical units. Source in the interview is Tetris Company head Henk Rogers. This does not include free-to-play ("That 425 million number doesn’t count free-to-play." - Rogers), and eclipses Minecraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fawesum
Polygon 2014
"The title has since sold over 170 million copies, both digital and physical."
The Guardian 2009
"In all its forms, Tetris has sold more than 70m copies around the globe; it has spawned architecture, art and music; it has earned multiple Guinness World Records..."
Gamespot 2010
In its official announcement today, EA clarified the 100 million milestone, saying that it included only paid downloads on mobile phones since 2005.
GamesBeat:
True. What have you been up to lately? Do you have any updates on Tetris and the kind of reach it’s found over the years?
Rogers:
We have 425 million total paid mobile downloads. That’s all just on mobile. We had 35 million on the original Game Boy. Boxed products, I think altogether we sold something like 70 million.
Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous that the Tetris numbers aren't updated.
This Norwegian site has a quote from the Tetris Company saying the 425 million figure is correct, too. And all sales after 2014 should put the number as way high than that, even.
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Minecraft has now got over 340million copies sold - from the Minecraft developer JEB please update this Uncreeperble ( talk) 06:09, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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Tetris is at 495 million sold as of 2014 (425 million paid downloads on mobile (not free-to-play) plus 70 million physical copies). Source is both Venture Beat and Polygon, the latter of is the same source as being used for the current list entry of 170 million, and is therefore as valid a source as the one being used now. Both articles I've linked cite (the then) Tetris Company boss Henk Rogers and is in my opinion more than enough to warrant an edit here. I'm requesting the Tetris entry to be changed from 170 million sold to 495 million sold.
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Hello Editor I noticed you forget some games and that are CounterStrike Global Offensive, Team Fortress 2, Dota 2 and Rainbow Six Siege. Those are some of the biggest current Esport Games and i think they should be included 2A02:8108:1340:5DA4:1587:EDAF:DB74:7A ( talk) 09:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Why is the entire Tetris series counted as one game? Is Tetris for the NES the same as Puyo Puyo Tetris? What about Tetris effect? That has special Mechanics that aren't in the other games. Heck, Tetris is counted as a video game franchise on the best selling list of video game franchises, and the number is the sameas on this list. So why does Tetris, with more than one installment, have the same number for its franchise and one game? Venyanwarrior ( talk) 20:55, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
I've recently found a reliable source from December 2011 stating that Tetris has sold 132 million paid mobile downloads. I have thus updated the list accordingly, which would put Tetris back at the top spot. Any comments? Maestro2016 ( talk) 02:27, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
In the table under the 'List' section, Terraria is listed as having been bundled with a console. I have tried looking up whether this is true, but I have seen no evidence that it was ever bundled with a console. The wikipedia article lists no source for the claim that it was/is bundled with a console. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliteari ( talk • contribs) 15:38, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
hey yall i just wannted to bring you an update for teh witcher 3 sales. it has passed 28 million copies sold world wide https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-witcher-3-sales-by-platform-revealed-heres-whi/1100-6475832/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.10 ( talk) 15:12, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Addendum: the specific source is this document, pages 51-52:
https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/04/management-board-report-on-activities-of-cd-projekt-group-and-cd-projekt-s-a-in-2019.pdf — Preceding
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all we have to do is wait for someone to update the numbers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.10 ( talk) 16:01, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Wii play is not listed as a pack in title, however, while it is not a pack in title per se, it WAS packed in with a wii remote (here is a link to someone on ebay selling a copy in the box https://www.ebay.com/itm/153719957895. I find it unfair to list wii play as its own thing. A wii play cost fifty dollars, and a wii remote cost forty dollars. in my opinon, some people bought it due to it being a wii remote and for an extra ten bucks they'll thrown in a game, for free. -- Mogar101 19:49, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Maybe it's time to update the sales of the existing games and add some new ones on the list Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/ Costas theodorou7 ( talk) 18:04, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
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games such as Pokemon Sun/Moon or Wii fit should be separate entries from Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon or Wii fit plus as they are on Nintendo's website https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/wii.html or as they are on the Wikipedia page for their respective systems ( /info/en/?search=List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_3DS_video_games). Also, certain Nintendo games haven't been updated since they gave out their fiscal year earnings on May 7 according to https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/wii.html 108.29.204.22 ( talk) 20:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
But wii fit and wii fit plus are basically the same games so that's why they are combined. sun and moon when counting Pokemon games you always count the special version like yellow, emerald, platinum, black 2 white 2 and if there had been Pokemon z it would be with x and y so that's why ultra is counted
I get why you changed Tetris and I agree to it but I feel it should be changed one more time. This time should be the NES version combined with the Gameboy version. The reason being is the games are one and the same game just one doesn't have color and the other does even the cover art is the same. If you were to do it all you would need to do is add the 8 million NES copies to the 35 million Gameboy copies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.176.115 ( talk) 15:40, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
If you want a YouTube video where it talks about it here is scott the woz go to around 12:30 in the video if you just wish to watch that part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEE5G3O-LyA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.177.145 ( talk) 20:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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Tetris should include both the Gameboy and NES versions as they are the same game. However, Super Mario Bros. should not include Super Mario Bros. Deluxe as they play a bit differently. Also, Pokemon Red/Blue/Green should be a separate entry from Yellow as it is on the Wikipedia page for best selling Gameboy games /info/en/?search=List_of_best-selling_Game_Boy_video_games 108.29.204.22 ( talk) 20:41, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree with the first part as i started a discussion on it earlier. as for the other part it makes sense that deluxe is included because its like Mario kart 8 and Mario kart 8 deluxe they are almost the same game one just has a bit extra. what I have suggested is that the Mario advances be counted and the super Mario all stars be counted as they are just updated ports of the games
I do not see any real difference between these two types of sales. Bundles are essentially just discounts for full-price games. Mobile downloads are essentially super-cheap discount sales (a few bucks each). Almost every top-selling game has been bundled with a console at some point to boost console sales. It seems nonsensical to keep noting that a game was bundled with a console (almost every game on the list) yet refuse to mention the fact that mobile games are super-cheap and not the same thing as full-price console/PC sales. If mobile downloads should not be noted, then we should scrap the pointless mentions of console bundles as well. Or we should note both mobile downloads and console bundles. It's double-standards to treat them differently. Maestro2016 ( talk) 14:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Though including paid mobile sales opens the can of worms do you count games like angry birds because with those game you had to pay money to get? Or do you add super Mario run with its 300 million copies since you had to pay moeny to get the game and to get more levels.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.177.145 ( talk) 14:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
In this video scott the woz when talking about cites one of his rules and that is no mobile games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEE5G3O-LyA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.177.145 ( talk) 15:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
that only issue is that how do you figure out the numbers of each it isn't like they report what each version sold. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.177.145 ( talk) 17:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
wait scratch that on terrarria they do have the number for mobile its around 8.7 million so you could fix that the sonic mobile sales are also included by for Minecraft i can't find anything — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.177.145 ( talk) 17:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Recently Tetris was split as it's more a franchise than a single game; I was wondering if Minecraft should receive the same treatment. There's Java Edition, Bedrock Edition, the various Legacy Console Editions, New 3DS Edition, China, etc. Though all similar, they are technically different games, most of which with different dev teams and various differences (referred to as "parity issues" in the community). Not to mention that many have been discontinued. I know I'm just an IP, but I thought it might be worth bringing up. What do you all think? - 73.52.182.69 ( talk) 21:43, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
I had a question that i hope can be answer so with the nes version of super Mario bros you count the 2 in one and 3 in one carts it came in right? If you do why isn't super Mario all-stars counted or that the wii version of the same game? Also what about the super Mario advanced games why are those not counted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.176.152 ( talk) 15:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
The reason why i asking this is with Mario advance you are basically buying that game again with a little bonus of Mario bros. the super Mario all stars is just a 4/5 in one cart (depending on which one) so why don't those count for the games because counting them gives Mario bro about 13 million more copies and same with 2 and 3 and then with 2 and 3 you have the advanced along with world too and there is the copies of world on all stars though i do not know the numbers for that version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.177.145 ( talk) 19:29, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
so do those count? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 21:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
i could see that on all stars needing a vote but the advance ones were just mario bros packed in with super Mario bros 2,3 world and world 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 19:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
i could see that with all stars maybe (because the whole reason it was made was to gets fans of the first one or the 3rd one and later world to buy it with the super Mario bro 2's as an add bonus) but advance was just you buying super Mario bros.2, super Mario world, super Mario world 2, and super Mario bros 3. with the added bonus of a remade version of Mario bros which most people ignored to play one of the four games i mentioned. They were nice ports with updated graphics its not like something say final fantasy 7 where the remake is completely different from the original making them two separate games but here you look at it and say yeah that is super Mario bros 3. because all it was a face lift and the ability to save which at the time was a remake but now the would be a remaster since it just updated the graphics as the main selling point of hey play this game on your new system and it looks better. the last of us you counted both versions and thats how it used to be on this list because of the remaster face lift for the ps4.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 14:57, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
By today's standards these games are remasters which you have counted those before since mario kart 8 and 8 deluxe are a very similar case as it is just a graphical and audio update with slight changes which last i checked that's what all stars and advance are even in the description on every wiki about the game say it is a remaster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 03:25, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Why were the virtual console versions removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 15:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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Also, I find it unfair to include a free mobile game on here, when there are other mobile games past 1 billion downloads not on here Wii games such as NSMBWii, Mario kart Wii, and Wii sports haven't updated since Nintendo's latest financial report 108.29.204.22 ( talk) 17:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Seems like this should be on the list ? Monster Hunter World/Iceborne have sold 20,900,000 copies http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:7271:210:D10:D6BA:8CF0:6FD4 ( talk) 08:42, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
It is an expansion pack but also sold as a Standalone copy with the base game. And like you mentioned the list does include DLC and Re-releases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:7271:210:ED36:A0B9:4889:4BA1 ( talk) 09:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Tetris (Electronic Arts) sold 100 million paid mobile downloads, according to this source. The source appears to be referring to a single game, rather than a franchise. Should this be added as a separate entry? For example, "Tetris (EA)" to distinguish from "Tetris (Nintendo)" already on the list? Maestro2016 ( talk) 15:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
but adding a game like EA mobile version of Tetris brings up the question what about games like mario run which have over 300 million purchases also angry birds so again do you count those? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 22:17, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
and to answer the question you would because for most of its run Tetris EA was 99 cents meaning that if you count that you count every paid mobile game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 22:21, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
if only some ratio could be made from it like for mobile sales that are less than dollars ten divide it by half though if you keep going down this path you will have to add angry birds which will be the best selling games every since they were 99 cents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 16:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
https://www.businessinsider.com/angry-birds-sales-numbers-2011-11 though i also want to pull this video out by scott the woz which in his list he doesn't count mobile only games meaning he did want to count games that made over 50 percent of their sales on a mobile platform
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEE5G3O-LyA here is the video.
now this reminds me of when they changed the definition of a planet to exclude Pluto as this is a similar case are you a hardliner a sale is a sale or should mobile games be counted different like i said if 50 percent of the sales are moblie should they stop counting? i think it should work something like that because moblie games have the unfair advantage to normal games as most are 99 cents so what is more impressive a game that sold 100 million copies at 99 cents or a game at 60 sold 17 million copies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 03:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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Witcher 3 - 50 million. Fisheek ( talk) 17:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has currently sold 50 million copies across all consoles. This has been stated publicly on CDPROJEKT RED's instagram account 64.178.254.250 ( talk) 22:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
uncharted 4 has reached 17 million sales so i figure and update is needed if you need the reference check the PS4 page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.176.187 ( talk) 18:56, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Also when you check that you will also want to update the last of us since it in the source says it is at 20 million.
Here is the link https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/10/14/the-last-of-us-sales-uncharted-4-sales/amp/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.176.187 ( talk) 19:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
i know i made this before the numbers were updated for last quater — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.177.108 ( talk) 05:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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grammar mistakes Yesyesbiggyboy1244 ( talk) 04:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
List of highest-grossing films (a featured article) has, along with the main list, additional lists for "High-grossing films by year" and "Timeline of highest-grossing films". Maybe we could do something similar for this list of best-selling video games? Maestro2016 ( talk) 08:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
What we could the games that held the title of best selling game of all time and how long they held it for? Also why isn't Pokemon black and white and black 2 and white 2 not combined?
how about we split the games into 2 list console/PC games and mobile games? It would fix the issue that we are currently facing of should mobile game be counted and i say yes and no yes they should be counted but no not in the same league as console games. what do you think about this idea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 04:05, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
also it would come with having to look up all the paid mobile games and how much each sold. i cant speak for most users but i can tell you most people when they do list try and exclude mobile games now some they cant do as easily like Minecraft since the mobile only sales aren't listed but they try their best. example scott the woz said that was one of his rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 ( talk) 16:39, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
so doing these two list you must on the console discount any mobile copies so someone would have to find out the Minecraft sales on mobile. Then do that top 50 and then ideally do a top 50 mobile games though that's much harder to track down — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.178.75 ( talk) 18:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
though minecraft will give you the most trouble to find the mobile amounts the latest i could find was from minecraft wiki for which at the time pocket edition had sold 40 million copies. after than i cant find anything but i can also account for the known console and PC sales which come from your sites which is 57.36 million the only problem is most other than the 30 million PC copies haven't been updated in many years or in the case of the switch version only japan and Europe numbers and the ps4 vita and wii u numbers i could not find so you have 40 known pocket edition sales which then puts if you make your two or three list (3rd one being the one we have right now) you would take 40 million out of the minecraft total and put the 160 in the pc console area and the 40 in the mobile area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.178.75 ( talk) 21:47, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
so what is the verdict?
But most people don't put mobile games on the same level as a pc or console game as i ask what is more impressive the 17 million copies of super Mario odyssey which is 60 bucks or 100 million copies of tetris EA a 0.99 cent mobile game or how Pac Man is on the list because of the mobile sales same with sonic and if anyone could ever figure out the payed numbers for angry birds it would be on this list to. Also when i suggested the idea i was thinking more like the best selling console list where you have combined list then a list of just home console system then one of handhelds and then a dedicated list that what i was thinking of.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2c4:c900:61c0:81f4:66f4:e536:eea2 ( talk) 19:37, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
but why not do something like with the best selling video game consoles of all time and i not saying removed we would keep this list but have two extra list to go along with it one would be pc and console game and the other should be mobile and while they are video games they aren't at the same level as a mobile game on a console you don't buy as most successful mobile game are that way as they are quick easy and you get a little fun out of it to pass the time yeah they could put temple run on the xbox one but no one would get it so why waste money on that. PC and console games that do well are because they are good games that you can sink a lot of hours into like while it can be said that some mobile games are that way and vise versa. mobile games on this list are also leagues cheaper you sell 100 million copies of tetris EA yet dollar wise that came out to be about a million while games like GTA V which for most of its time be around 50 to 60 bucks has made quite a bit from it so while yes the numbers are impressive for tetris and should be recognized it is very over bloated compared to most games it is like wii sports while there is many copies out there more than half of those sales were pack ins so they are kind in the same boat big numbers but comparatively less significant than super mario bros which if you are to take all the copies of it out there like super Mario all stars would be around 61 million copies existing of super mario bros. I just wanted to give my point and leave my suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C4:C900:61C0:E8D0:3C61:3119:7984 ( talk) 04:45, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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It would be nice to have a rank column on the lefthand side. It would be useful to be able to eyeball "Duck Hunt" and figure out that it is the 21st most sold game. Zcanann ( talk) 07:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Shouldnt Tetris be counted as single game, not separatelly ? It was on lot of consoles during decades, so the sales are divided. Totally, on all platforms, it should be +-480 millions. T0biasCZe ( talk) 03:52, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
According to nintendo’s official sales data, Pokémon Sword and Shield have sold 18.22 million copies, putting it at the bottom of the list Source: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html
P.S sorry if by the time I’ve posted this the edit has already been made, and sorry for any bad grammar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.147.130.249 ( talk) 09:40, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Currently, Diablo 3 and Witcher 3 include expansion pack sales on the list. Should expansion pack sales be included on this list? Maestro2016 ( talk) 14:09, 19 August 2020 (UTC) I agree with that if numbers are given out for the expansion packs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.167.21 ( talk) 02:53, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
I was bring this up since the 3D all stars was announced for the switch and lets say it does super well should its sales also factor into the sales of mario 64, sunshine, and galaxy? I dont see why not since it is the same game with some touch ups and minor changes. So lets say the number come out down the line and its like 10 million for this should it be added to 12 million for galaxy and the 11 million for 64 and the numbers for sunshine? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.167.21 ( talk) 03:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Please change third column's title from "Sales" to "Unit sales". (Just "Sales" usually means $ sales...). Thanks! 19:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.12.75.183 ( talk)
He is right, it should be changed to say units sold or something more specific. — Preceding
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There is no reason to not add World of Warcraft to this list. As far back as 2014 they had sold 100 million units. Here is the source for that https://www.polygon.com/2014/1/28/5354856/world-of-warcraft-100m-accounts-lifetime I hope you are not confused with units sold and subscribers. The highest number of subscribers in a single month was around 12 million, that means that many people were playing and logging in for that single month. Over years some people leave and new ones show up. So tell me again why World of Warcraft is not on this list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.222.105 ( talk) 06:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
This page is for volume of units not money earned. If a game was free, on sale, half off, buy one get one, 30 cents, or free, it doesn't matter for this page. Can you explain logically why price would affect you listing a game or not for a volume of units page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.149.115.58 ( talk) 18:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
50 Million at of Feb, 2020 https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/03/06/should-activision-blizzard-worry-about-tencents-ne.aspx https://www.windowscentral.com/overwatch-crosses-50-million-players
40 million as of May 2018 https://www.statista.com/statistics/618035/number-gamers-overwatch-worldwide/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.149.115.58 ( talk) 18:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
As of December 2018 CS:GO was free-to play but prior to that in 2016 they hit 24/25 Million units just on PC. The game was also available on other platforms. Any idea what the total numbers are? I feel like Games should be added in and then marks with an *as of* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.149.115.58 ( talk) 19:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
so what is the stance on these games compared to one another? while DS does change some things up to make it interesting and new for people who played and beat the original game but at its core it is still mario 64 with a bit more. Should they be counted together or apart? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.171.136 ( talk) 16:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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Changing Super Smash Bros. Ultimate from Rank 47 with 19,990,000 sales to Rank 43 with 20,000,000 sales. Reference: The series game director's own numbers from a recent official Nintendo broadcast [1] Oscar Lilja ( talk) 10:00, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
They're pretty different, after all. The music is different, the UI is completely different. Game Boy Tetris also has a link cable multiplayer mode that the NES version doesn't have. They weren't even released at the same time, the NES version released 4 months after the Game Boy version. Anyone else think this way? Aluminite ( talk) 04:32, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Sales figures numbers are outdated.
(August 16, 2020) https://gamerant.com/highest-selling-call-of-duty-games-ranked-by-amount-sold-world-at-war-modern-warfare-black-ops/
(September 1, 2020) https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-sells-30-million-copies/
Call Of Duty: Black Ops = 30.99 million
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 = 30.97 million
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019) = 30 million
Call Of Duty: Black Ops II = 29.59 million
Call Of Duty: Ghosts = 28.8 million
Call Of Duty: Black Ops 3 = 26.72 million
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 25.02 million
Call Of Duty: Advanced Warfare = 21.78 million
Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare = 19.84 million
Call Of Duty: WWII = 19.82 million
Call Of Duty: World At War = 17.66 million
116.39.24.217 ( talk) 22:13, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
During the Rockstar and 2K financials it was confirmed that red dead 2 has passed 34 million. Now i dont know how to find these but i was putting this in here so someone can edit the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 ( talk) 00:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC) https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1324474556837437440 here is a source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 ( talk) 00:35, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
https://www.vg247.com/2014/04/07/tetris-mobile-sales-hit-425-million/
This is from 2014. How was this not updated since 2010? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.218.182 ( talk) 19:43, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
are at 50 million source: https://twitter.com/witchergame/status/1266057420557766657 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:810A:82C0:3C0C:94E6:C1A2:BF2:6CB2 ( talk) 11:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/marvel-spider-man-ps4-review/ here is the link it is at 20 million — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 ( talk) 03:25, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
it is what they use on the ps4 page for this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 ( talk) 19:52, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
the best selling ps4 games — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 ( talk) 01:53, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Ok sounds good also check out the talk page for best selling game consoles of all time and see if some edits should be made — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.135.162.22 ( talk) 18:15, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
well here is a new source https://www.altchar.com/game-news/insomniac-games-marvels-spider-man-has-sold-over-20m-units-worldwide-aRcxs3x9Ul4f
If you combine Tetris' numbers on the GBA/NES farther down the list with the entry for EA's Tetris higher up, then Tetris would be closer to Grand Theft Auto V than what it currently is. I think this is a needed change, because the varying versions of other games tend to only recieve one entry on this list. However, I'm not going to make that change myself, because I would need to do more research on Tetris' true total numbers. IGN reports that the Tetris Company claims over 500,000,000 total sales ( https://www.ign.com/articles/best-selling-video-games-of-all-time-grand-theft-auto-minecraft-tetris). That would place it at number one on this list. However, claims are one thing, and verification of those claims is another. Ultimately, I might have the time to look into this someday in the future. But I probably don't have the time in the next couple of months. So, if somebody else wants to give this a go, then great! Fan Of Lion King 🦁 ( talk) 10:52, 7 November 2023 (UTC)