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This page seems to be pretty good - is it ready for a run at becoming an FL? Although it may be best to wait a week because with the title likely to change hands soon, it will be hit with a wave of IP and new user edits, which could cause it to fail the stability criteria. -- Scorpion 0422 03:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Undertaker has been striped from the title —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.171.81.144 ( talk) 22:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I know CM Punk was a Raw superstar when he cashed in Money in the Bank but how did that make the title a Raw Exclusive Championship. Remember when Edge cashed in his MITB Contract against The Undertaker. He was a Raw superstar then, so why did he get switched to the SD! roster. Shouldnt the title have come to Raw. Or now should CM Punk be a part of the SD! roster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.161.238 ( talk) 03:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a vacancy between Punk's and Jericho's reigns? I know WWE has yet to say the title was vacant, but I think it's implied by the fact Punk wasn't in the match. And there is precedence in that, in every similar situation in wrestling history, there has been a vacancy. Bmf 51 ( talk) 03:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
When a title changes hands in something other than a singles match, that IS worth noting. This information should be put back in the article because it IS notable. The article is not accurate if it is deliberately leaving out relevant information. For example, the article implies that Shawn Michaels beat Triple H one-on-on to win the title. TJ Spyke 21:31, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Well noting this was a Triple Threat match also involving Orton does not help the case of saying Rey pinned Orton. So, even adding what match does not cover him pinning Orton. And again it does not effect the history. You can note that in Rey's article, since it has more need there. It tells Rey won the belt, when, where, and that is all that is needed. Noting he pinned Orton is 50/50, it is significant to Rey's reign but not the actual title's history. Go ahead with your removal idea possibly, because at the moment the list only needs a few third party refs and a cut down on the lead to pass the criteria fully. I'll help you out, I've been wanting to start a removal for all the WWE Title lists. Tell you what, you take the World, Women's, IC, and WWE Tag, I'll take the rest.-- Will C 02:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm guessing this discussion is over?-- Will C 22:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I'll admit that the relevant and important info is already in the article.-- Will C 22:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Why is it, then, that on certain title changes, such as Chris Jericho's reign when he defeated Batista, it is noted to be a steel cage match? Why is Punk's current reign states to have been a Tables, Ladders, and Chairs Match? I feel that the match type (aside from singles matches) IS notable in the article because it states the sort of match the competitor won it in. I feel like I'm repeating everything that was already said above, but still, including it in SOME of the matches and not all is not right, simply put.-- Lord Dagon ( talk) 15:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
There was some error with the previous sorting method that was causing vacant title reigns to be sorted wrongly (when sorting from highest to lowest, the vacant reigns would show up at the TOP of the list instead of the bottom). The only reason why I think a editor has a problem with the current format is because Jeff Hardy's 2 minute reign is less than 1 day. If someone can get the vacant reigns to show up correctly in sorting, I am open to suggestions. As for the refs, I have seen many FA and FL reviews where the reviewer will be against a lot of refs for the same thing. The general consensus is that any individual fact (like a title reign) only needs 1 or 2 refs, any more than that is overkill. Do we really need 4 references that say "Wrestler A beat Wrestler B to win the title"? TJ Spyke 23:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes it is already an FL, but a reviewer can have his opinions, but at the moment they don't mean a thing. I feel seeing that an editor took the time out of his day to make sure this article was accurate by introducing third party refs, we should keep them within the article. Simple as that. More is better, this isn't about what a reviewer at a nominations page would think. You are always against we having to change when a reviewer says his opinion, what made you change your mind now?-- Will C 23:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I see that Orton, Hardy and Michaels are ranked as equal 17th instead of equal 15th. Does anyone know why? In other sports where there is a tie or dead heat (eg golf, horse racing), the participants that tie are equally ranked at the higher rather than lower ranking. For example, if there is a dead heat for 2nd in a horse race, both horses are ranked equal 2nd and there is no 3rd plaegetter prize awarded. Unless anyone can provide a valid reason, I'll change them to equal 15th instead of equal 17th. Thanks. MC Rocks 08:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
This article is seriously screwed up!! Sorry fi that offends anyone, but it's simply the truth. The World Heavyweight Championship's lineage begins in 1905 with George Hackenschmidt, then passed to Frank Gotch in 1908. From 1908 to 1948 it was held by men like Charlie Cutler and Ed "Strangler" Lewis. From 1948 until 1988 it was the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. held by greats like Lou Thesz, Harley Race and Ric Flair. From 1988 until 2001 it was known as the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, held by men like Flair, Hulk Hogan, Sting and Bret Hart. From 2001 it has been known once again as simply the World Heavyweight Championship, and has been held by the likes of Triple-H, Chris Jericho, Edge and John Cena. However, this article only begins the Lineage in.....2002!!!!!!! This is seriously screwed up, and needs to be corrected if Wikipedia is to have any credibility. Seeker of the Torch ( talk) 16:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Nay, nay and thrice nay! The National Wrestling Association Title only came into existence in 1929, and was unified with the World Title in 1949. So that ain't the "original belt". And if there was indeed an "NWA/WCW belt" and "they were basically the same thing" then why does Wikipedia have separate articles listing the NWA and WCW World Titles as separate titles? Or are you simply choosing one form of revisionism over another? WWE's homepage is not the final word. What WWE announcers say, McMahon says, WWE Magazine says, DVDs say, books say, that's what counts. NOT some guy working in WWE's IT department who probably doesn't know George Steele from George Costanza. Wikipedia wrestling title articles are full of factual errors, because Wikipedia follows NWA and PWI revisionism rather than the truth. When people attempt to correct it, Wikipedia editors claim that "Wikipedia doesn't follow revisionism/kayfabe history"! Well, you are doing just that. I lived through this stuff, and can remember it firsthand, as can various people I know. But I guess that's not a reliable source, whereas some ten-year-old fanboy's website IS? Seeker of the Torch ( talk) 13:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, you say that WWE uses revisionist, kayfabe history, but most of the sources on this article are from wwe.com? Doesn't that also clash with the idea of not (over)using Primary or Self-published Sources? And I never said that wwe.com was the kiddie fanboy site. I meant that many Wikipedia articles on Pro Wrestling use fansites as "Reliable" sources. This one doesn't seem to. However, many articles do. Some clear idea of what a Reliable Source for Pro Wrestling articles needs to be laid down. Personally, I wouldn't even consider somebody like Alvarez Reliable. But that's perhaps for a different Discussion Page. Seeker of the Torch ( talk) 08:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that Ziggler's reign is only listed as 1 day, that he gained and lost the title on the same night, February 15, which aired on the 18th, friday, today. I don't think this is correct: the actual match was the previous week, the Smackdown on Feb11. That's when the match where Edge used the spear occurred. As such, while the official coronation ceremony was on Friday, Edge had already been disqualified and Ziggler officially took the championship previously. It was a week later when he won it back. So I'm going to change it, and I hope if there is a dispute we can talk it out here, will make a note on page. Dictabeard ( talk) 04:43, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
According to WWE themselves, (See: http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/results/ ) Ziggler was never the champion at all. The title was vacant for a week. It should go "Edge > Vacant > Edge". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.44.219 ( talk) 13:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
WWE's title history includes Ziggler.-- Will C 16:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
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How come this says 2 days? He won it at the Sunday pay-per-view and then lost it the following Smackdown. To viewers, this would make it seem like he held the title for 5 days, not 2. Is this because the smackdown was taped 3 days in advance, on the preceding Tuesday before it aired? Could this explain the Dolph Ziggler problem too, that perhaps they filmed that Smackdown on a Monday so even though he won the belt on the Sunday pay-per-view, IRL he lost it the next day even though it was only aired 5 days later? AweCo ( talk) 20:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I too, must take issue with this. A link is provided to WWE.com's own section on the history of their 2002-2013 version of the belt with the link "Christian's First Reign.". When one is brought to that page, at the top it clearly reads "May 01, 2011 - May 06, 2011". By my math, this is 5 days and not 2. Furthermore, this means that entering reigns which have ended on SmackDown! should be counted via AIRING DATE, not the night of taping. The tapings may take place 2 or 3 days (depending on if you're talking 2002-2005 & 2015-present Thursday era or 2005-2015 "Friday Night" era...) before airing with various wrestling news sites providing the upcoming spoilers for the next episode, but until the show, and furthermore, the match itself, airs IT IS NOT OFFICIAL. As such, I would respectfully request that Christian's first reign length in the infobox be changed from 2-5 by a moderator or editor with permissions level whom is able to do so. 107.4.62.227 ( talk) 23:06, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
It has been fixed now. Thank-You both for your concern. ADg2k14 ( talk) 09:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
It's been a few days now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.251.19 ( talk) 20:38, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
On Raw this past monday they mentioned a few times Big Shows reign was only 45 seconds. It seemed longer to me watching it (closer to the time in this article) but I haven't timed it myself. But shouldn't we go with the "official" time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.90.29.90 ( talk) 03:52, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Alberto Del Rio defeated the Big Show on January 8, 2013 in a Last Man Standing Match. Here is a link to the WWE website to prove it.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/alberto-del-rio-wins-world-heavyweight-championship-26082615 208.76.160.102 ( talk) 00:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
A lot of strange ties on the table in terms of reign length. Kurt Angle and Jack Swagger both have 82 days, for example, just can't be a coincidence considering how Swagger was slightly modelled after Kurt Angle (amateur champion background, using ankle lock). Hardy having the same length as Michaels also is an eery coincidence considering the similar background as a tag team competitor, excelling in ladder matches.
I don't know what this says on Cena/Bryan or Kane/Benoit tying though. Ranze ( talk) 17:38, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
I made a list like this on the talk of the WWE title since that gets brought up. I got mixed up about Randy Orton since they made a deal about him being the youngest, but he wasn't for WWE, so it must be this one. So I'm going to figure it out for this. Here we go, list of youngests:
Other interesting mentions if we ignore Orton:
I guess since there was only 1 change in 'youngest' (different from WWE history) it may not be worth mentioning. Ranze ( talk) 18:17, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Does it matter on the specifics of the MITB Cash-in (IE: Miz cashed in his Money in the Bank contract after Orton defended the title against Wade Barrett) or can we just say Miz cashed in his Money in the Bank contract 71.235.161.49 ( talk) 02:28, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
please delete
No. of Reigns says 6 but I count 5? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.216.130 ( talk) 19:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey, somebody should mark all the WWE.com site refs in the tables as the dead links. Cause they don't work now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.156.93.97 ( talk) 22:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
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