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Hey! I wanted to add Borderlands 3, as there are multiple LGBTQ+ characters in it, but was just wondering how to format it, since Mad Moxxi and Tiny Tina appear in 1 and 2 (or just 2 for Tina), how are we fitting that in with the formatting? QueerFilmNerd talk 02:46, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Final Fantasy VII (PSX) is full of mockery when it comes to male homosexuality (e.g. Don Corneo's mansion, the Honey Bee, underwear for the poorly endowed after lots of squats, naked men on the train). There are lots of examples. It also has quite raw homophobia (Barret's extremely homophobic rant on date night, angry glaring male characters on the Golden Saucer ride, molestation/rape at the Honey Bee) and heterosexism (e.g. getting kicked out after being mocked at the Gold Saucer's couple's area) at times. Everything related to Mukki is obnoxious at best and truly odious at worst. There is the typical heterosexual male chauvinist notion that prettiness in males means looking so much like a female that one can pass for one – as if maleness can't be pretty (see also Final Fantasy V and one of the Tekken games for PS3 for the identical chauvinism). FFV needs to be listed in this article for the aforementioned. Do tons of work to get a same-sex romance result and have your face rubbed in poo like a bad puppy. Not only do you get stuck with Barret but you get a Barret who asks you out then proceeds to equate homosexuality with pedophila. Ugh. I am reminded of Dr. Laura and her "fax polls". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.193.157 ( talk) 07:53, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
The remake has a gay character named Andrea Rhodea. And also gives Sephiroth's interactions with Cloud some homoerotic subtext, often creepy and played for horror. 93.70.114.92 ( talk) 19:24, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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Please add the character Eagle from the Street Fighter Alpha series. He is modeled after Freddy Mercury (see https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Eagle) and a lot of his quotes allude to him being a homosexual "not interested in young ladies", "You’re a splendid man" etc. (see https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Eagle/Quotes). He appears in Capcom vs. SNK 2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3. He also appears in the original Street Fighter from 1987 although in that game there's no mention about him being a gay character. 94.212.251.76 ( talk) 16:21, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
It seems the gay specific quotes are in the japanese version, in English version they are relaced, but he does say Freddy Mercury inspired quotes "the show must go on" here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJU_QBBETO4&t=2m40s and "no time for losers" here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDwZOGEqig&t=0m50s and a text quote "care to dance with me?" to male character here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJU_QBBETO4&t=9m26s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.212.251.76 ( talk) 00:12, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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The character Azul in Neo Cab (2019) uses non-binary pronouns (as stated by the developer - view link below) and can therefore be considered as genderqueer. Furthermore, their depiction is a representation of physical handicapped people, since their right arm is replaced by a robotic one.
Source: https://twitter.com/neocabgame/status/1184633308979687424 MitsurugiSan ( talk) 07:36, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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11:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)I understand your point with the handicapped part. We can put that ad acta. However, as I learned at university in gender studies and through non-binary people I met, non-binary pronouns are a main part of identifying as genderqueer. Furthermore, could you please provide more information about why you think the entry shouldn‘t be on the page. Cheers! MitsurugiSan ( talk) 09:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Great and thanks for your perspective. I am just a tad confused, since I heard that the terms ‘genderqueer’ and ‘non-binary’ are often used synonymously, though there some think there is a significant difference. However, I guess it depends how an individual perceives themselves. Aside from that, I am glad we came to an agreement. Cheers! PS: When will the character be added to the list? MitsurugiSan ( talk) 12:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Why is the character still not added to the list? Cheers! MitsurugiSan ( talk) 16:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Game by naughty dog features ellie who is a lesbian she is a playable character. Cant really remember the story of the first games. Playing the latest one she has a relationship with bisexual nina. Abby the other playable character addopts an adolescent boy lev and his sister who are being persecuted by a common enimy he reveals to abby he is transgender and that is the reason for his clan turning on him. I feel the game tries to deal with bigotry and predudice and it offers positive role modles without being preachy or heavy handed. I think it deserves a mention. Ellie and Dina ( talk) 12:31, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
OK, maybe the word isolate isn't all that correct, but it definitely sounds good. My point is, the list is separated between "Franchise games" and "Stand-alone games". My suggestion is to keep the stand-alone part as is, but split the "Franchise" list into its own page; maybe one named "List of video game franchises with LGBT characters". I understand the list works like this; games without sequels go in the "Stand-alone" list, as do franchise games when they're the only game in said franchise with LGBT characters, while if a franchise has 2 and more games, it goes in the "Franchise" section. However, recently, someone added a Phoenix Wright game in the franchise section, which got me thinking.
The stand-alone list works by chronological order, which can help users find a title by a specific year: look at the progression of LGBT characters in video games with the passage of time, find game with LGBT characters from X year, etc. But that's somewhat hard to do, when many games are missing from said chronological list, because they're part of the "Franchise" section; just look at the 2010s. It's a constant back and forth in the list, going from one section to another. The "Franchise" section isn't exactly bad as it is now, but given its name, wouldn't one say that any franchise with at least one game with LGBT characters in it should be included? If Call of Duty where to have a game in the future with LGBT characters, one the one hand, it'd be the first (and only) game in the series to do so. However, Call of Duty is also one of the biggest and best-selling franchises of all time. Doesn't it make more sense to put in the the "Franchise" section?
I don't know, maybe I'm not making much sense with explaining things. But the main idea is that the two lists should be separated. The one problem I see arising is that game from the "Franchise" page would appear both there and here; in the "Stand-alone" (or "Chronological") order. PanagiotisZois ( talk) 17:22, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
:Oop, just seeing this now. @
PanagiotisZois, I support splitting off the "Video game series," which I believe you mean by "Franchise games," into its own page, while the stand-alone games can stay here. Currently, the Video game series section is a total of 88,051 bytes, which is 88 kB, and according to
WP:SIZESPLIT, "a page of about 30 to 50 kilobytes (kB) of readable prose, which roughly corresponds to 6,000 to 10,000 words, takes between 30 and 40 minutes to read at average speed, which is right on the limit of the average concentration span of 40 to 50 minutes." So, this would definitely fall into that category.
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Where is Dishonored? Emily, Billie, Delilah, Breanna, Mindy, and Aramis are all LGBT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.235.225 ( talk) 01:20, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't see Dante (from Devil May Cry ) on the list and I understand you need a source before making into the list. I've seen tons of fan arts and short stories clips of him in sexual relationships with numerous males (but of course that isn't directly from the video game ) but even in the video game his sexuality is questioned by a lot of fans especially the way he dress, poses, facial expression and feminine pretty boy looks in Devil May Cry 1,2,3 and 4. He dresses up and style himself up in a metrosexual/beautiful male appearance.
Although it's confirmed he is not gay. "Dante's not gay, but I wish he was" says Ninja Theory creative director Tameem Antoniades. "That would teach all those homophobes out there."
Dante loves Trish and look at her as a partner, so we can say he loves women. However he also had moments that suggest he is in touch with his feminine side. https://lgbtqgamearchive.com/2015/11/09/dante-in-devil-may-cry/ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/241018-devil-may-cry-5/78996113
Here is a source that suggest Dante is Bisexual (although it's a different Dante of Devil May Cry). It seems the director did intent to make Dante as a bisexual character. Although I disagree that being in touch with your feminine side makes you weak as many of the most strongest and coolest characters don't look like your typical macho men but rather have pretty or beautiful boy look.
https://coreymotley.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/devil-may-bi/
Here is a source from 2019 https://gaymingmag.com/2019/09/10-video-game-lgbt-icons-that-need-to-be-in-smash/ which includes Dante as one of the top 10 LGBT icons. But I won't edit it to the list because I'm not sure how reliable it is. Vamlos ( talk) 16:54, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
The Remake has a new character named Andrea who is gay. It also plays up homoerotic subtext between Sephiroth and Cloud.-- 93.70.114.92 ( talk) 19:29, 26 December 2021 (UTC)¨
Why was this section removed? Vandalism? 50.158.38.87 ( talk) 21:58, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Can the character that goes by Pisha be included in this section? Maybe it could say "Pisha and an unnamed lover" or something, since we don't actually know her real name. Johnandsoon ( talk) 01:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
She is a transgender councilwoman from Oakland in Watchdogs 2 who helps Marcus Holloway take down New Dawn, should this be included? Melofy ( talk) 01:49, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
the character Varko Grey from the Imperial side of Star Wars Squadrons is married to a man 2001:448A:2077:3E7E:1DFF:AF58:417:7821 ( talk) 06:47, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
I found a source for some Runescape characters, but I'm not very familiar with the game (is RS2 just RS1 rewritten with a new engine, or were there story and gameplay changes?) and thus whether Runescape 3 characters should be listed as RS3 under 2013, or under the 2001 Runescape entry. QuietCicada ( talk) 00:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Notifying editors here since there was no prior discussion before doing so, but PanagiotisZois split off the 2020s content into its own article, hence the unexplained deletion. I leave it to the more active editors on this page to decide whether this move is/was necessary. -- Cyberlink420 ( talk) 20:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
MtG Arena is a video game port of the physical card game. The physical card game is chock full of LGBT characters, and a lot of them appear in Arena, too. Arena also features some LGBT characters that are exclusive to Arena, and not present in the physical game. If we are to add Arena, should we reference every LGBT character that appears, only those native to Arena, or just a sweeping statement along the lines of 'There are too many LGBT characters in the game to list.' At a cursory glance through I count about 40 named LGBT characters, and about a dozen more unnamed, with more added every couple of months. PowrOfFriendship ( talk) 23:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
The list already includes a few entries in the Ultima series but never once mentions the Avatar themself, the series' main character. As established in Ultima 3, the Avatar is optionally non-binary/agender/queer (as represented via "other" gender option), likewise the article already mentions that the Avatar, regardless of gender, can accept romantic and sexual offers by people of any gender.
Inversely, the Bully section just lists Jimmy as being bisexual. The boys you kiss are named characters, Trent, Gord, Cornelius, Vance, Duncan and Kirby. Not really sure if any of those characters have any dialogue or interactions to imply they might be bisexual however (from memory, I only remember Cornelius and Kirby having any plot relevancy)
Just posting this here so I don't forget in the future but the Japan-only RPG game, Adventures of Hourai High features a trans woman as a secret playable character.
And a similar question to the above post; the My Little Pony mobile game includes the lesbian couple from the show, Lyra and Bon Bon, as a lesbian couple but also greatly expands upon their relationship in a way the show never did. Does that make the game uniquely notable to feature here?-- Amelia-the-comic-geek ( talk) 06:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Pourquoi je n'arrive pas à ouvrir l'application?? 37.170.77.240 ( talk) 15:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
the imperial library has a running list, starting with daggerfall (1996): https://www.imperial-library.info/content/lgbtq-tamriel
apologies if this has been brought up before. 2601:204:D381:640:B0C5:1E91:EE90:F0BE ( talk) 09:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
There's a number of queer characters from Dragon Age Origins (2009) that could be listed under the 2000s section. Zevran Ariani can be romanced by a male or female player character, same as another main companion, Leliana. They both discuss being bisexual (Though that label isn't explicitly used) at certain points if prompted. In Leliana's personal quests you can meet her former female lover, Marjolaine. Branka and Hespith, two npcs in the "Paragon of her kind" main quest, are also queer, and will talk about their relationship if prompted.
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