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I'm trying to source the entries in this article, but I've run into problems with some (such as
Abdul Hadi al-Iraqi and
Sheik Abd-Al-Rahman to name but two). I'm not seeing sources that say they were ISIL (as opposed to Al Qaeda); I'll give a small window of opportunity for others to provide sources, but if they don't appear then those ones that I can't find sources for will likely be removed from the article.
Dylanfromthenorth (
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20:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)reply
As discussed on my talk page, but for the benefit of future editors reading this, the older kills/captures are from when the ISIL group first founded in 1999 operated under other names and especially when they were commonly called al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) and a franchise of al-Qaeda core. The whole list was migrated from the main very high activity
ISIL article in an effort to pare down that beast of an article. Sources are in the linked articles about each member.
Legacypac (
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20:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)reply
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
70.51.200.101 the main dispute in the discussions of the previous RMs largely revolves around whether we can make unqualified reference to "Islamic State" when there are disputes as to whether they can call themselves a state for all Islam when there objection is made to their adherence to Islam and when the group is not a state.
GregKaye09:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Support. I think, however, it would be even better to move this article to the title
List of ISIL militants. The research by GregKaye above corroborates that "militants" is a better and more informative (and also accurate) description than "members", for people working for ISIL and its allied groups/previous incarnations.
Khestwol (
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06:01, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Khestwol I definitely agree that militants provides a better description for some people in the group. A question remains as to whether we want to include information on, say, the three girls from Bethnal Green England who recently travelled to Syria. We always talked of "members" of the Nazi party but I agree that, in line with the current range of article content, militants is a suitable description. Personally I still don't know what the best wording might be but tend to favour militants.
GregKaye08:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose the root article is located at
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant not "ISIL". Also, the group calls itself "Islamic State", not ISIL. In fact the use "ISIL" is US-centric, as it is mostly US-media that use "ISIL", following the designation the
U.S. government adopted on 14 May 2014, but non-English media, rather reasonably, do not slavishly follow U.S.-government directives. For example "Islamic State" is the tile of the French Wikipedia (État islamique (organisation)), the German Wikipedia (Islamischer Staat (Organisation)), the Spanish Wikipedia (Estado Islámico (organización terrorista)), the Italian Wikipedia (Stato Islamico), the Portuguese Wikipedia (Estado Islâmico do Iraque e do Levante), and the Russian Wikipedia (Исламское государство). There you have the six top non-Asian world economies.
XavierItzm (
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15:23, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
This is not the place for arguing about the title of that article. This is the English Encylopaedia, so we go by English sources, not by what foreigners say. We don't tell them what to use, either.
RGloucester —
☎16:44, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose – Main article is at "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant", and we should not use acronyms in article titles if the entity is not primarily called by that acronym on Wikipedia.
RGloucester —
☎16:44, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose - To move from the full name of "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant" to the acronym of ISIL is is not possible per
WP:ACRONYMTITLE and
WP:TITLEFORMAT since the group is not known primarily by the ISIL acronym. The parent article is also not called ISIL but the full name.
Mbcap (
talk)
17:20, 7 March 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose - I believe this would be a move back to the name I started the article with, but I now prefer the spelled out name.
Legacypac (
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00:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
I check pages listed in
Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for
orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of
List of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant members's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not.
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Is it clear already that
Islamic Defenders Front members such as
Muhammad Rizieq Shihab and
Munarman are member of ISIL? The cases are still in the court and they both so far rejected the allegation, and so the organization. Until there's a clear result on the court and confirmation more on their connection to ISIL, please dont add them to the list. Thank you
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04:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)reply