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I'm not sure of the history of these missions, and I don't think maybe that they survived into the era of the formal residential schools. All I know is there were schools attached to the missions, in Owl Creek's case a large one such that the Lil'wat people came down from the then-main village at Pemberton Meadows to live near it, which instigated the growth of the Mt. Currie Reserve, now the main Lil'wat community. There is no trace of Owl Creek today other than the placename (on a power substation...). At Skookumchuck Hot Springs, Skatin today, I'm not sure the scale of the school, possibly local so not residential, so to speak. Both were Oblate-run and another mission was at Shalalth, although I think that was just a church, albeit with a small school, again not AFAIK "residential". And all I think were frontier-era and maybe didn't survive into the formal residential school era. I don't have cites handy, although with a certain book (Decker's book on Pemberton, see that page for the ref) a basic article on Owl Creek could be listed; what its "saintly name" was I don't know, maybe it's in that book. Skookum1 ( talk) 17:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
The listing is incorrect. All Hallows was a school for all girls, including uppercrust society girls from Victoria, who studied alongside native girls. This was a residential school, but only in the same sense as Sacred Heart or Vancouver College. It was a fancy private school that admitted First Nations children and treated them as equals. I'm removing the listing; its name anyway was simply "All Hallows School for Girls", no mention of "residential" or "Indian" in its name, and it has no (known) association with the abuses of the residential schools. Skookum1 ( talk) 17:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm happy to acknowledge that you believe these things, and that they may indeed be true, but you'd still need to reference them. I think creating an article on All Hallows would be the best "rider" you could come up with, however, simply removing it from the list doesn't make sense. Of course there was variety among schools, just like there was variety among students. Some people went through certain schools and had no exceptionally bad experiences. Supposedly, Andy Paull was happy to volunteer to attend, stayed friends with the oblates all through his life, and he was a firm activist.
Still, I don't think it makes sense to exclude this school from the history of residential schools. According to the Anglicans, "the education of Indian girls was transferred to St. George's from All Hallows School, Yale in 1916." So it's clearly connected with the history of the residential school system. Judging only by the titles, it looks like Barman changed her mind a few years after writing "lost opportunity" because in 1995, she wrote "Separate and unequal: Indian and White girls at All Hallows School, 1884-1920." In J. Barman, N. Sutherland, & J. D. Wilson (Eds.), Children, teachers, & schools: In the history of British Columbia (pp. 337-357). It looks like there might be some interesting info in "Our Tellings: Interior Salish Stories of the Nlhaʼkapmx People" (Darwin Hanna & Mamie Henry), as it contains Edna Malloway's (who attended All Hallows) "Memories of Lytton." Give that a shot too. Just like the Japanese internment article, I'm all for creating an accurate, nuanced history of residential schools (rather than a simplistic one) but simply removing this school from the list doesn't accomplish that. - TheMightyQuill ( talk) 19:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
You've ignored the body of my argument and you have no references. It's listed on the AFN website. I've re-added it. - TheMightyQuill ( talk) 23:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
"n 1890, All Hallows School was officially opened in Yale. It was the only school in Canada to enroll both First Nations and white girls in the same facilities. Upon opening, the school enrolled thirty-five First Nations girls and forty-five white girls ranging in age from six into the late teens. Many of the First Nations girls were recruited by local Anglican clerics. Many of the girls parents were in favour of having their daughters attend the school to "learn white ways."5 Most of the First Nations girls came from the Lytton area, with a few also coming from the Shuswap area, Salmon Arm, Lillooet and Chilliwack.
All Hallows attracted many daughters of Anglican clergymen from across British Columbia, The clergymen liked the school's religiously based instruction and "rightly thought it better to send them to a school like this, in which their duty to God and man is taught from the highest of all motives."6 A final reason for attendance at All Hallows for some of the girls, both whites and Indians, was due to lack of educational alternatives."
- The Rise and Fall of All Hallows, Gold Rush Town of Yale website
"Two All Hallows oupils exemplified the high standards of education at the school nation-wide in 1907 and 1908. In 1907, one student placed first in B.C. and sixth in Canada on the McGill University entrance exams. In 1908, another student received the first gold medal awarded in Canada by the Royal Academy of Music."
The title of this list should be List of Canadian Indian residential schools so as to specify the Indian Reseidential School system and to exclude private schools like Upper Canada College, St. Michael's University School, Vancouver College, Brentwood College, Shawnigan Lake School etc (and All Hallows!). Some of these indeed had Indian students with the ame purpose of cultural assimilation, although in these cases into the elites; Seminary of Christ the King at Westminster Abbey (British Columbia) in Mission likewise had First Nations students in teh same way All Hallows did; none belong in this list (and the AFN needs to give its head a shake). Skookum1 ( talk) 17:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
I note there are a Presbyterian and a Methodist Coqualeetza school each....maybe on the same property? See Coqualeetza.com "about us" page and more. Not sure if "the Coqualeetza property" includes grounds of both schools....for a while back in the '70s or so "the Coqualeetza band" was also heard, though which of the many Sto:lo bands around Chilliwack this was I'm really not certain....IO also remember hearing Coqualeetza Reserve, though probably this was a reference to the grounds, and the proper name of the IR meant I'm not certain.... Skookum1 ( talk) 19:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
There's only one Coqualeetza - the confusion might come from the Presbyterian and Methodist churches amalgamating into the United Church of Canada. The mission there was established by Methodists, and several schools were built to house increasing numbers of students; it was first a day school called the Coqualeetza Home, then later was rebuilt after a fire and renamed the Coqualeetza Industrial Institute. [1] You're very right that "Coqualeetza Reserve" is not a real reserve; there is no Indian Reserve at the site. I am planning to develop a page for the Coqualeetza residential school, using sources like Kelm's Colonizing Bodies, Carlson et al, A Sto:lo-Coast Salish Atlas, and Raibmon's article "A new understanding of things Indian: George Raley's negotiation of the residential school experience (Coqualeetza Indian Residential School, Sardis, BC)." If anyone has suggestions on information they would like to see about the Coqualeetza residential school, please let me know. Mardikbawk ( talk) 22:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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Just to note that Peckquaylis (anglicization of Pekw'Xe:yles), is only the grounds of the former St. Mary's in Mission; the actual St. Mary's Indian Residence is/was called Toti:lhtet or close to that, and includes businesses and some government bodies, and is a recreation facility; the actual, original St. Mary's Indian Residential School was west of the current buildings, which were built in the '60s and although containing classrooms did not operate long as a school, but served as a residence for First Nations kids attending Mission Secondary School. The original school site is now part of the Fraser River Heritage Park. Skookum1 ( talk) 20:14, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I knew about Thetis, of course; but tonight came across Capernwray Harbour Bible School on Thetis Island, which is right by Thetis; Thetis was Catholic-run, the North America Indian Mission, which a [Capernwray Harbour Bible School current google] shows is/was non-denominatial, operated Thetis. Anyone know anything more about it? See Talk:Capernwray_Harbour_Bible_School#residential_school_history. Skookum1 ( talk) 23:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I think All lists in Wikipedia should be turned into tables. I didn't look into the policy, but I think it would be useful to get this into table form, that is a bit more structured. It would also be nice if each table could be exported as a CSV file. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.142.249.161 ( talk) 18:53, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
The CBC wrote "St. Anne's residential school in Fort Albany ( was open from) from 1904 to 1976." http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/give-aboriginal-abuse-victims-role-in-court-case-ndp-says-1.1370098 and in the list-table there are two entries for Fort Albany. Neither of the two entries have the 1904 or 1976 dates. I am wondering which is source is correct (CBC or AFN site) and if two seperate "Fort Albany"s should be listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.243.254.224 ( talk) 22:07, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
In Western Canada, most RC-run schools were Oblate, I'm not certain about back east. It's just that I noticed on Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate (the Oblates) page that only the St Mary's Residential School is listed (we called it OMI, the abbreviations of the order, which also shows up on various priest articles, .e.g Lejeune, Durieu); and there is no link to this list or to the school system article, which in both cases there should be; but if this page makes no direct mention of the Oblates maybe not? Skookum1 ( talk) 22:09, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Would it be possible to include a column that listed the buildings that are still standing? ggatin ( talk) 17:01, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
I have attended Marieval Residential School in 1993-1995. The school was not closed at this time but was actually under the control of the Cowessess First Nation, most of the staff consisted of members of the Cowessess FN, and the school itself had become non-denominational at this time. According to [1], the school closed in 1997 which accords with my own recollection. I do know that the buildings that the records were kept in burned down shortly after its closure in 1997, and am wondering why it is listed that the school closed in the 70's when in fact it still did serve a purpose as a type of residential school even up into the 1990's. Otacon1ca ( talk) 20:57, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
@ Otacon1ca: It's all available online: Truth and Reconciliation Final Report - Themightyquill ( talk) 18:04, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
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Should this be made clear in the article? There were various other residential schools in Canada that were not directly federally administered and therefore were not included in the IRSSA (Ile-a-la-crosse for example). Jonggear ( talk) 20:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)