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I can't read Japanese to find if the cited reference clears this up, but the title of the section on Joel names him as Joel Goldschmidt VI, and yet the first line addresses him as Joel Goldschmidt IV.. Which is it?
75.120.189.156 (
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06:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)reply
It seems more or less obvious that due to his comment to Amshel, as well as the fact that he was seen living at the end of the series, even after Saya sliced him, that Nathan was in fact not Diva's chevalier, but that of hers and Saya's mother. Tentatively, I've edited this into his section as "speculation." —Preceding
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Zeeroid (
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08:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Sorry i'm new to this, but wouldn't it be incorrect to make the statement earlier that Nathan is Diva's chevalier when it too is probably not fact? that addendum, while speculation, true, at least lets the reader know that it may be (probably is) incorrect. is there any way to address this problem while still following wikipedia ethics? --
Zeeroid (
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19:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)reply
No, it isn't incorrect, as that is what the series stays. Nathan is Diva's chevalier. Unless reliable sources actually discuss whether he is or not, no, there isn't. Now, perhaps in the forth novel (if its ever released), that scene will be expanded to actually note characters speculating on it, but at this point, even the source itself does not. No one in the series goes "wait a minute, if he said that, does that mean he isn't Diva's chevalier?" Only some viewers make the speculation, and of course they are not reliable sources. --
AnmaFinotera (
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20:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Bormann
I came across this site mentioning "Martin Bormann", Hitler´s "right hand", somewhere. I´ve just seen the series, all 50 episodes more or less in a role within a few days, but I haven´t found that bit where he was supposed to be mentioned. Could any of you please be a bit more precise about that so I can check? Cheers
LagondaDK (
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16:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Thanks for that. I also found the picture now in episode 12 (11:52), though, not knowing the novels, I wouldn´t have known who it was supposed to be.
LagondaDK (
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17:16, 3 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I believe he is also mentioned in the timeline on the official site, but I don't know the kanji to search for to find the specific reference. One of my long term goals is to add the supplemental novel sources as well. :) --
AnmaFinotera (
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18:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Red Shield Confusion
A Search of Wikipedia for "Red Shield" brings one directly to this page. This is confusing, since the "Red Shield" is also a term used to refer to one of The Salvation Army's logos. Perhaps a disambiguation page might be in order.
174.116.80.157 (
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17:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)reply
It is also the name of an insurance company. I don't think a disambig is needed at this time, with just two usages, and I'd suspect the Salvation Army one is more common. As the redirect is not the result of a merge, I've boldly changed it to go to the Salvation Army article instead. --
AnmaFinotera (
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18:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I would also like to point out that Red Shield is translatable in German as Rotschild which sounds the same as Rothschild, the name of a family of bankers, the founder of which had five male children by the names: Amschel, Salomon, Nathan, Carl and James, if that rings a bell (
Mayer Amschel Rothschild). I think it is appropriate to add this to the page since it is obvious there is a connection.
94.68.27.70 (
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00:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)reply
@
94.68.27.70: I disagree! Even though there is reason to suspect that the author might have been inspired by that it still is a manga/anime. We should not mix up fiction and history. It is, however, worth mentioning and I assume the discussion-page is just the right place for that.
LagondaDK (
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15:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)reply