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... that an early version of the
turn-based gameLegends could take three to ten years to complete? Source: Dyche, David W. (July–August 1990). "Legends: A Review Part II". Paper Mayhem. No. 43. p. 40.
ALT1: ... that a 1990 version of the
turn-based gameLegends could take up to ten years to complete? Source: Dyche, David W. (July–August 1990). "Legends: A Review Part II". Paper Mayhem. No. 43. p. 40.
Since 1 October, the article has expanded from around 6,500 to over 40,000 bytes. QPQ is still pending and will need to be completed. Hook is interesting and cited. Quickly skimming the article, it appears that the game in its current form still takes a few years to play, is that right? If so, it may even be a better hook.
Krisgabwoosh (
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21:51, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the review
Krisgabwoosh. I will do the QPQ within the next few days. It does apparently take a few years to play currently. I proposed the above hooks since a game that appeared in DYK in January 2022—Victory! The Battle for Europe—used a hook saying it took three years to complete. It seemed like the 3–10 year estimate was even longer and is one of the longest I have seen for a turn-based/play-by-mail game. I don't object to changing to the current time estimate—just wanted to note this previous entry.
Airborne84 (
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00:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Interesting, in that case I'd say go with the original hook to distinguish further. With that, I'd be happy to pass this once QPQ is done.
Krisgabwoosh (
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00:17, 8 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Just dropping a line here to let you know that 'conflict of interest'-wise that I've made a couple of edits early on for this page - I'm currently working for Harlequin and running Legends. While I don't check into Wikipedia all the time, if you have questions (on anything in the last 20 years) or if there is some aspect which is unclear ping me a message and I should be be able to either answer or maybe point you at where the info is available.
EdwardLane (
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14:29, 11 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for
GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.
If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.
Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski(
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Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.
PBM) is a turn-based, fantasy role-playing game. It is a closed-ended, computer-moderated game with a medieval setting, currently published in English by Harlequin Games. - Jargon and
WP:SEAOFBLUE issues with this. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs)21:56, 11 March 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure what you mean here. I don't think Jim Landes is notable enough for an article, but it seems encyclopedic to list the game developer.
Airborne84 (
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03:28, 12 March 2023 (UTC)reply
I think you've missed the point somewhat. We've introduced Landes as an owner of "Midnight Games", but not said what "Midnight Games" is. Even if we said they were a developer or something we'd have less whiplash. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs)12:32, 12 March 2023 (UTC)reply
It is consistent with the other PBM good article, Starweb, and the only PBM Featured Article, Hyborian War, as well as a few other PBM articles that have this context. I don't mind changing them all if you have a better name. But I'd rather keep them consistent.
Airborne84 (
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03:37, 12 March 2023 (UTC)reply
When I ran the Hyborian War Featured Article nomination, the editors asked for this context before promoting it. It follows Featured Article
Criterion 1.b., "places the subject in context". So, although this is a GA nomination, it aims to follow the best example of the genre on Wikipedia.
Airborne84 (
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03:37, 12 March 2023 (UTC)reply
I mean, there's a concept of what it is, and then there's a whole section that doesn't talk about the subject at all. I'm amazed this was how we wanted this implemented at FAC. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs)12:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)reply
The flow of the article is a bit off. For example, the development starts "The game is computer moderated, although in early versions certain special actions could be hand moderated.[27][h", before we actually go in on anything about how the game was created or anything. Lee Vilenski(
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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.