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Are there no appropriate images of Corbusier for this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.28.180.30 ( talk) 00:51, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
We should include one of his most famous quotations, about a house being a machine for living in. -- Tarquin 17:15, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm suprised not to see any images of Le Corbusier's plan for Paris. To me it's one of his most shocking and notable (if brutal) plans. [1] -- Quasipalm 19:52, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
"Nothing is contradictory any more. Everything is in its place, properly arranged in order and hierarchy." I read it from "Introducing Modernism" by Chris Rodrigues and Chris Garratt. But I don't know where it was that Le Corbusier first said it. LionKimbro
I would like to add external link of his biography available at World of Biography It includes his life, quotations, chronology, list of publication and few sketches. -- Kbi911 13:54, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Is there a reason why there is no mention that Le Corbusier was one of the designers of the UN HQ in New York? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.117.1.149 ( talk • contribs) .
I was surprised to see that this category existed: Category:Architects who committed suicide. It is possible to speculate that he walked into the waters knowingly (as the article says "against his doctor's orders") and therefore comitted suicide... what do you think? Include the category? -- Blahm 01:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to add an external link to the World of Biography entry ( Le Corbusier Biography), probably the most famous portal of biography to this article. Does anybody have any objections? 17 Apr 2006 Raghuvir.
Somebody's claiming he designed Masjid Negara (National Mosque) in Kuala Lumpur. I highly doubt it. The Badan Warisan Malaysia lists the designers as from the Public Works Department: Howard Ashley (lead), Hisham Albakri, and Baharuddin Kassim. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Straits-mongrel ( talk • contribs) .
Is there any reason why the image is aligned on the left, and the table of contents on the right? In my opinion it looks very cock-eyed at 1280x1024, and only marginally less so at 800x600. Most other biographical articles on Wikipedia do it the other way round, for good reasons I think. -- RobertG ♬ talk 09:50, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to say one word about something I've been thinking about lately. In an architecture and design forum, one participant claimed that Le Corbusier erred in his urban visions, and other times, in other places, he is blamed for buildings and urban works, built by others, which don't work or were even demolished as failures. Someone else pointed out to me, on the internet, an article about the Cabrini-Green neighborhood in Chicago, its malfunctionings and faults, implying Le Corbusier's (and maybe also Mies Van der Rohe's) ideas were to be held responsible. The Corviale building in Rome seems to have been inspired by Le Corbusier's theories, so his name gets brought up about that, and his ideas are often pointed at as failing. These are false and unjust accusations. Unfortunately, few of his many urban plans were actually constructed, such as the Pessac residential neighborhood, the Capitol in Chandigarh, and Firminy Vert. I was in Firminy, and I am glad that they finally completed St. Peter's church, because along with the stadium, the Unité d'Habitation, and the Cultural and Youth Center it forms a system of spaces and places that is harmonious, useful and beautiful. I wish that more of his plans of "urbanism" had been built, and I believe it would have been good for the inhabitants. If someone else has attempted to do that, whose intentions or capabilities were maybe not so elevated, it is another matter. Le Corbusier was battling (to no good use) when the Unité d'habitation in Berlin was being built with modifications to his drawings, and he reproached (as F. L. Wright did) also some epigons, when all they would do was take an element from his works formally and litterally witout interpreting the spirit and the sense. The Corviale building (to get back to the initilal examples, but there may be others), never was completed, had a very lacking management if not a lack of it, and then lived through particular adventures, with the several occupations that took place. If the Cabrini-Green complex has metallic grates enclosing the corridors that look quite uncomfortable, if an elevator breaks down and it doesn't get fixed for months or years, and if the trash accumulates and nobody takes care of it, Le Corbusier, Mies Van der Rohe, or modern architecture have nothing to do with that.
Can anybody confirm what the name we all know him by, "Le Corbusier", actually is; is it a nickname, a pen-name, or what? Certainly some of his books are attributed to "the crow" as being the author, rather than to "C-E Jeanneret". Does it have any official status (name change by deed poll equivalent etc?). Since wikipedia is frequently referred to by those writing essays/etc, this might be a useful topic to have clarification of. Like how 'Bucky' (R B Fuller) always gets mistakenly surnamed as Buckminster-Fuller. Graldensblud 14:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a mal-formed sentence in the third paragraph of "Early life and education, 1887-1913": "He designed his earliest houses, such as the Villa Fallet, the In his early years he frequently would escape the somewhat provincial atmosphere... "
This article stresses technical criticisms of Le Corbusier's legacy, especially in the field of urban planning; what is missing is an assessment of his artistic achievement. Le Corbusier was a true polymath: he was a fount of original ideas in the cerebral spheres of construction and planning, as well as a tremendously creative sculptor of form. LC's early work was a pillar of early modernism, but his later works, like Beethoven's later quartets, transcend any stylistic categorisation. It is true that he erred, but it would have been surprising if otherwise, given the magnitude of his contributions. Any criticism of his ideas must bear in mind his fecundity and influence - in thought and in art. Tkeu 21:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
As someone who has visited many of his buildings, I also agree that the article stresses urban design too much. Corbu changed design forever, being one of the pioneers who made Modernism, and thus our post-Classical World. Gerrit Rietveld and Frank Lloyd Wright are also part of this group of great artists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cagedcalcium ( talk • contribs) 02:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
This article does not begun to do justice to the range and breadth of Le Corbusier's work. In particular, something needs to be said about his later period, especially the Unite in Marseilles, the Ronchamp cathedral, and La Tourette monastery. It would also be useful to note his use of "beton brut" concrete and influence on Brutalism. There is also almost no mention of his work on Chandigarh, a project that occupied much of his postwar work and marked his most notable foray into monumentality. Finally, how does this article fail to mention the International Style even once?
On a different note, something should be said about Le Corbusier's politics in the 1930s. His involvement with the far right is well-documented. Demflan ( talk) 02:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Amen! Cagedcalcium ( talk) 02:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree about his politics. Whist there is a section on this, the extent to which his ideology influenced his work is not discussed; the Law of Ripolin and stress on holistic cleanliness is mentioned only briefly in the section The Decorative Art of Today (1925). The talk page mainly consists of people complaining that the breadth of his work is not covered; whilst this may be so, what is there is quite praising. The article needs to be more objective, and include more about his views - warts and all. Glissando1234567890 ( talk) 19:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
The above editor brings up an excellent point: The documentation in this article is extremely lacking. Whole sections make claims without footnotes, and "Forays into urbanism" has been marked as needing more citations since January 2007 -- well over a year. Surely enough has been written, in print and online, about an architect as prominent as Le Corbusier that the statements in this article can be backed up with verifiable, reliable sources. -- 69.22.254.108 ( talk) 10:26, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
The influence section is little more than a single sustained attack, much of which focuses on the more general deleterious effects of suburban sprawl (of which he was hardly a proponent) rather than anything directly related to his work. It's also almost entirely unsourced, composed largely of original research, and repeatedly presents often subjective criticism of his work as hard fact; while notable examples of criticism (I think immediately of Jane Jacobs and Alison and Peter Smithson) ought to be noted, they must be presented as opinion, and their origin fully ascribed. As it stands, the section is an embarrassment to this encyclopaedia. It's a good job he's dead, because it would be a wholescale breach of WP:BLP 86.0.203.120 ( talk) 15:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I can't put this on the reverter's user talk page which is semiprotected, but... please educate me, what's wrong with 95.222.120.117 ( talk) 13:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
?Quote: Some architectural historians claim that this pseudonym translates as "the crow-like one." ... with one reference given.
Like, what? Le Corbusier bears some semblance to French "le corbeau" = "the raven". So what? This just seems to be some author's individual theory. Maikel ( talk) 12:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm recommending that page Fondation Le Corbusier be merged into this page due to a few concerns:
Vulture19 ( talk) 13:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
The article states that a "Block of apartments built over the house [sic]", but it was not, or at least not as "built over the house" would normally imply. Villa Ternisien 1926 by Corbu (also known as "Maison Ternisien", "Maison des Artistes", or "Maison d'artiste") was mostly destroyed (only 3 exterior walls remained). In 1936, Architect Georges-Henri Pingusson's addition and re-construction of the structure was completed, which included a large apartment block on top, and an entirely new look on the previously darkly-coloured structure (Pingusson chose white).
Sources to check out:
"The Le Corbusier Guide" by Deborah Gans (Available on google's preview - Ternisien is on pp 69 of the document),
"The Villas of Le Corbusier and Pierre Jeanneret 1920-1930" by Tim Benton (Revised and Expanded Edition) (pp. 97-105)
"Birkhäuser architectural guide france 20th century" (My apologies for the lack of authorship - try this ISBN: 3-7643-6222-7. This one describes Pingusson's work)
ArchInform has some images, and a little bit of information ( http://eng.archinform.net/projekte/1950.htm for Corbu's entry, and http://eng.archinform.net/projekte/9460.htm for Pingusson's) My Pillow of Wind ( talk) 08:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The frank gehry page has a separate page containing a list of his works in grid format. Is this something that should extend to other famous architects just like a discography page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donald.smith2060 ( talk • contribs) 23:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Dear authors of the "Le Corbusier" Wikipedia entry: Concerning your article, may I cordially suggest you to read the text “The TK Theory of Visual Proportions” and, if necessary, link or cross-reference the latter article with the former. Please contact me in case you have any doubts or questions. Yours, espaisNT.
This article states in the opening paragraph that Le Corbusier worked on "several buildings in South America". But, the Curutchet House is identified in its article as the only work in that subcontinent. Which is correct? -- Polymeris ( talk) 21:57, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
-- EspaisNT ( talk) 10:05, 9 September 2011 (UTC) -- EspaisNT ( talk) 10:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
One of the works listed: Las Nubes, house of Uruguayan novelist Enrique Amorim (Salto, Uruguay)
is not the work of Le Corbusier. Here is a link to a newspaper article (in Spanish) which clearly states that the house was designed by its owner, Enrique Amorim, not by Le Corbusier.
http://ladiaria.com/articulo/2010/11/por-las-nubes/
it should be removed from the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.64.64.115 ( talk) 00:36, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Small point but "Towards a New Architecture" is not a 'mistranslation,' it's a free translation, something different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.48.166.110 ( talk) 11:35, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
"Leonardo's suggestion of the golden ratio in human proportions" -- this is based on a misconception. In 1509 Luca Pacioli published a three-volume discourse on the golden mean entitled De Divina Proportione. The book was illustrated by Leonardo da Vinci. But I don't recall seeing any evidence that Leonardo da Vinci based human proportion on the golden ratio. Aknicholas ( talk) 02:01, 29 November 2011 (UTC) What's the connection? The Sound and the Fury ( talk) 17:43, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
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Le Corbusier was a Swiss architect, born in Switzerland. He took French citizenship later in his life, hence I see no reason not to describe him as "Swiss architect". mgeo talk 11:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
The current lead seems perfectly acceptable: "Charles-Édouard Jeanneret, better known as Le Corbusier (French pronunciation: [lə kɔʁbyzje]; October 6, 1887 – August 27, 1965), was an architect, designer, urbanist and writer, famous for being one of the pioneers of what is now called modern architecture. He was born in Switzerland and became a French citizen in 1930. His career spanned five decades, with his buildings constructed throughout central Europe, India, Russia, one in North and several in South America." The Sound and the Fury ( talk) 20:08, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Go for it. The Sound and the Fury ( talk) 16:41, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I think this section was actually somewhat helpful [2] because it shows us who his peers and co-workers were. What's the real problem with inclusion here? The Sound and the Fury ( talk) 16:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
User Billinghurst removed the following external link alleging there may be a CoI in it. Would you care to explain where this alleged CoI would come from?
Thanks, warshy ¥¥ 15:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
The phrase "Dedicated to providing better living conditions for the residents of crowded cities" doesn't sound quite POV-neutral, and it would likely be questioned by those who feel that Corbu's city planning herded working class folks into crowded cities while opening up the green suburban and rural spaces for the wealthy. [user:PurpleChez|PurpleChez] 10/1/14 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.249.207.195 ( talk) 15:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there a reason that the Carpenter Center for the Visual Arts doesn't show up in the list of works? It is his only building in the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.241.98.241 ( talk) 21:32, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
These images of paintings (three of them in particular) do not look good in a packed gallery (too close together), nor in a standard gallery (if there were 10 or them maybe). Best leave them mixed with the text so the reader sees the works throughout. Cordially, Coldcreation ( talk) 13:46, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the article adds the "Gris" onto his last name in the lead? I know that it's written that way on his birth certificate and his 1941 identity card, but he doesn't seem to have used that name, and the biographies I've seen and the home page of the Fondation Le Corbusier simply call him Charles-Édouard Jeanneret, and that's what he usually called himself. Would anyone object strongly if we left out the Gris? Cordially, SiefkinDR ( talk) 14:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Dear ColdCreation. There are a lot of pictures to come, and I think we're going to need to use galleries. I'm afraid that if they're arranged vertically in the margins they're going to push far outside of their sections. I think its important to have the text and the images together as much as possible. Cordially, SiefkinDR ( talk) 08:10, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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This article spends very little time on Le Corbusier's personal life and relationships. Though these may seem prurient, these had an important effect on his work and the work of others associated with him. Just to serve as two examples; his wife, Yvonne, is mentioned only once in the body of the article. Eileen Gray is not mentioned at all. Integrating these elements should be done carefully and relevantly, but they should not be forgotten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam.hill7 ( talk • contribs) 13:45, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
I agree totally there is also very little about his brother or parents. Gramscis cousin Talk Stalk 08:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, as you can read in the disambiguation page, "Corbu" was a nickname of Le Corbusier, I learned while looking for the first time the first episode of Fraiser (a lamp by Corbu). If I have checked correctly, such information is not in the current version of the article. I think it should be inserted.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 17:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Have you come across any reliable sources that speak to this project? Kengo Kuma's Anti-Object makes mention of it, tho I'm seeking something with more detail to add expand this edit: Maison Citrohan. I appreciate any help you can offer. | Stussll ( talk) 23:02, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Can someone help in creating Template:Le Corbusier? Khenamothara ( talk) 04:12, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
This page has 33 sections. Some examples; the page on Constance Stokes (a featured article about an artist) has 6 sections, and the pages on figures so significant and varied as Gorbachev, Thomas Edison and Bohr all have less than 16 sections. I don't doubt the depth and variety of the information in the page, but 33 sections (?!) is surely too many - information that is relevant is split between sections, and the article is quite complex. I don't know if anybody has some ideas, or even agrees, but maybe some changes are due. Glissando1234567890 ( talk) 19:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC) The page seems to be fairly inactive, despite being a Level 4 article. Any action? Glissando1234567890 ( talk) 20:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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