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I'm not sure
I'm not sure what to do with this article. Suggestions??
Falphin 21:20, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I realize that a seperate bibliography article is unconventional in Wikipedia, but it seemed called for in this case: that complete list was part of the
L. Ron Hubbard article, and if some enthusiast wants to, it could be made much longer still, what with all the transcribed lectures, collected memos, etc. that have been published. So I created a selected bibliography on the biography page, with a link to this more extensive one. If the long list stays on the bio page, readers have to scroll through the whole thing before getting to useful external links at the bottom of the page. If we don't make the list availble somehow, I expect that some Scientologists would insist on putting it back (Hubbard-related sites have some history of edit wars). So, I vote for this new article, unless you have a better idea.
BTfromLA 21:36, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
ok, now I understand what this article is about. As long as it is discussed on the talk page of the main article I have no objections.
Falphin 21:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
removed category tag
This article is in two sub-categories of
Category:Scientology,
Category:L. Ron Hubbard and
Category:Scientology books. In general an article shouldn't be in both a category and one of its sub-categories. There's an exception when it's the article that defines the sub-category, but this article doesn't define either. Accordingly, it's being removed from
Category:Scientology. --
Antaeus Feldspar 4 July 2005 00:17 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree with Antaeus' change of categorization, as described above.
BTfromLA 8 July 2005 03:11 (UTC)
I dunno about putting Hubbard's books into only two categories and having everything in chronological order. It doesn't seem that helpful. Is there a way to reorganize these and other works such as lecture series into levels, say Basic, Pre-Grades, Grades, NEDs, Clear, OT Prep, and OT? Sort like
this. Is there a better organized list out there?
Chiok01:48, 29 March 2006 (UTC)reply
There are a few real Hubbard bibliographies,
http://web.uni-marburg.de/religionswissenschaft/journal/mjr/pdf/2003/breit2003.pdf mentions some, "For the literary part of Hubbard's oeuvre exists a fairly complete and dependable bibliography: William J. Widder, The Fiction of L. Ron Hubbard." I think it's quite helpful to segregate the Dianetics/Scientology material from the tales and novels, but there should also be a section for several screenplays. Does radio drama fit here? Dimension X did a production of Hubbard's "The Professor is a Thief."
Hypatea (
talk)
11:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Two-thirds of the Dianetics & Scientology section is incorrect. Most of the books listed here as being from the 1980s and 1990s are actually older books. Some of these are also BOTWO (Based on the Works of) books, and not actually written or compiled by Hubbard himself.
wikipediatrix06:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)reply
I've tried to address this by placing more of the later editions in parentheses after the first edition. Sources of information for first publication place/date are the 1975 Technical Dictionary and the 1976 Technical Bulletins I-X.
DavidCooke22:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)reply
the science fiction stuff
"Bare-faced Messiah" refers to many more stories in the pulp magazines than this article does. Also, there is no mention of two stories which Hubbard seems to have considered seminal works: "Excalibur" (never published) and "Revolt in the Stars" (slated to become a movie, never finished). I don't have all the facts and could be mistaken.
Hypatea (
talk)
14:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)reply
Well first we'd have to investigate further into
WP:RS/
WP:V secondary sources to see what is said in them, and then determine what could be added to the article, with citations for those sources.
Cirt (
talk)
11:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)reply
In progress Cirt, all additions will be sourced as needed, will try to finish adding and sourcing next week. The ISBN numbers don't lead me anywhere, are these important for other reasons? Also, I believe we should give priority of publication while mentioning Scientology's Golden Age and Galaxy reprints. Yes?
Hypatea (
talk)
18:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Lots of material has been added to this article which appears to be interpretation from primary sources, as opposed to material backed up to
WP:RS/
WP:V, secondary sources, and I have tagged that material as such. We can not build this article simply out of our own personal interpretations from primary sources. If that is all that this is going to be, than this has no place on this project.
Cirt (
talk)
22:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Still in progress Cirt. Will read through those
WP:RS/
WP:V again soon. These are primary sources mainly, the magazines where the stories appeared. Also, the secondary sources are at the bottom of the page now, and the information checks out, but I don't know how to do footnotes properly. Look for update by Sunday.
Hypatea (
talk)
18:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)reply
University of Marburg Marburg Journal of Religion staff said it's fine to use their material if attribution is given and will check this page when they have time to make sure attribution is given correctly.
Hypatea (
talk)
13:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)reply
"Whole sections" meaning short plot synopses. The author of the original internet peer-reviewed journal article has been contacted and invited to share his thoughts here.
Hypatea (
talk)
16:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)reply
You have seemed to have failed to grasp that what you have done is copy-and-pasted significant portions of text into an unneeded article.
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contribs16:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Reference text
A good source for a list of L. Ron Hubbard's works is "The Fiction of L. Ron Hubbard" by William J. Widder by published by Bridge Pub. Science Fiction studies calls it "no less exahustive than its predecessors in the field, and every fictional piece Hubbard ever wrote..is listed, with many also described."
Orangepulp81 (
talk)
23:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Add a book
Found a text that is worthy of inclusion here. Can we add “L. Ron Hubbard: Images of a Lifetime” published by Bridge Pub in 1996? ISBN: 1-57318-028-9. Library Journal calls it a “handsome large-format book, with over 250 color and black-and-white photos, chronicles the life of the founder of Scientology by focusing on his myriad achievements”