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It looks like someone either screwed up big time, or screwed up on redirects, I was looking for Klonoa (character) and got stuck here! Looking for Guntz was no big help either. If someone sees this, is there a way we can fix this?? 74.212.28.84 ( talk) 04:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC) {Tails0600, not logged in}
I need help, I've been trying to make it appear but nothing happens. It's on the edit page but not on the article! HELP ME PLEASE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueknightex ( talk • contribs) 12:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok looks like someone already fixed it last year. Thank you Blueknightex ( talk) 11:09, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Someone created a separate article for the Wii port of this game ( at Klonoa: Door to Phantomile (Wii)). In general, ports do not get separate pages since their gameplay and story change little from the original, and whatever development and reception details can usually fit into the main article without a problem. I don't see the Wii game getting a significant amount of "new" attention outside the usual reviews to require a separate page at this point (particularly if it doesn't come out stateside), and thus the new details there should be merged here. -- MASEM 14:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
In its favour it's a retooled game which has jumped 2 console generations, but against that is that the extras described in the lead are just that, little nubbins, there's no indication that this is anything other than the same game brought up to date. It does, IMO, warrant a merge, but I sympathise with Teggles' view that too often these merges result in the later variant being the runt of the litter in some sort of reverse-recentism. If it was to be merged, the new game must be given enough space for reception and development information, not just a footnote, including the 'poochied' comparison image. The plot section here goes just up to or past the Rongo Lango boss-fight, I'm not seeing any difference in that respect, so both gameplay and plot are apparently duplication. So long as the other info is covered well a merge wouldn't hurt either and pave the way for a strong article. Someone another 16:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I support a merge of the Wii article here. I just don't see that significant change from the PS version to warrant its own article. Notability and lots of effort are irrelevant to the discussion. Just because an article may pass for inclusion doesn't mean the end product will come out the best. The same has been argued a while back with the Final Fantasy Development article, which was basically a copy of all the development sections of all the Final Fantasy articles. Discussion ensued as to whether to keep this and face the possibility of many of the FF articles — most of them FAs/GAs — being demoted. A merge here I think would create a better end product with the game as more complete coverage is given. MuZemike ( talk) 18:43, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the games should be split back onto separate pages. Sure the gameplay is nearly identical, but each game has its own development, release history and reception. It's dumb to have a "Wii remake" subsection to each major section on this page. If no one opposes, I'll make the change in a couple days. TarkusAB talk 11:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
I know this is rather pointless, but these people should realize this game is for children, so it shouldn't matter if it's childish. I grew up with this game and I still like it a lot. I'm 18.
It seems a bit much that the remake is E10+, but it does seem rather dark in some ways, and even dramatic.
Besides, aren't there some people who purposely go for something super cute and childish in nature? Some people are into that, a lot, despite their age.
I just think some people shouldn't judge things for such absurd reasons.
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1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | Very minor points to correct: "Yoshizawa established the dream concept because he was interested in exploring the quickly the idea of where dreams go when they are forgotten." in development. For "The game was revealed at the 1997 E3 trade fair with a trailer video," I'm not sure if it's just a trailer or something more unique. Probably because I'm not familiar with the game, I'm having a little bit of difficulty figuring out what a "young boy creature" is. "One of Ghadius' henchmen eavesdrops into the conversation" should be "onto the conversation," I believe. |
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2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | I'd like to see ref 42 fully formatted. |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | Yes, the citations are from video game magazines, notable and reliable sites, and video game criticism. |
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2c. it contains no original research. | as far as I can tell, it does not have original research. |
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6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | The rationale for the screenshot is a bit bare bones, and I'd definitely like to see it expanded a bit more. |
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7. Overall assessment. | This is a very strong, nicely done article, and I feel that there are only very minor changes to be made before it fully meets all the criteria. Please let me know when you have made those changes! Best wishes, Rapunzel-bellflower ( talk) 22:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC) |
@ Rapunzel-bellflower: OK I think I addressed all points. Regarding "young boy creature", I changed it to just "boy", but am open to suggestions. It's never stated in the game (or any related media) what type of creature or animal he is. All we can say is he's a furry anthropomorphic mammal. TarkusAB talk 00:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
I wrote a plot expanding upon the original and as a result it's longer (Below). Would this be appropriate to publish?
The game is set in Phantomile, a land fueled by dream energy. A furry anthropomorphic animal named Klonoa living in the village Breezegale dreams about a meteor crashing into a hill. He awakens and soon after a meteor crashes into Bell Hill nearby. Klonoa and his friend, the "ring spirit" Huepow, decide to investigate. They find Ghadius and Joka, along with the unconscious Lephise. As Ghadius notices Klonoa and Huepow he leaves Joka behind to deal with them and find the Moon Pendant so he can turn Phantomile into a world of nightmares. Klonoa ventures back to town where his grandfather tells him that Granny should know something about the Moon Pendant.
At Forlock Forest they find that the Ferry Tree has withered because the water from the Water Kingdom, Jugpot has stopped flowing. Upon investigating they find that it is actually flowing in reverse. They eventually make there way to the castle, freeing Karal along the way. They battle with King Seadoph and Pamela (Karal's mother) who have been put under the control of Ghadius. After defeating the pair King Seadoph sends water back to Forlock Forest to revive the Ferry Tree. Karal takes the pair back and they renew there search for Granny.
As they make there way through Forlock Forest they come across a guard who explains that Granny has been kidnapped and they have been kicked out of her home. Klonoa and Huepow find Granny being interrogated by Joka for the location of the Moon Pendant but decides to retreat leaving behind Gelg Bolm to deal with them. After the battle Granny explains that the ancient lore is coming true and that the Moon Pendant must be kept safe. Klonoa mentions that his Grandpa is holding onto it at which point Joka reveals himself from hiding and flies off to Breezegale. They make for a shortcut through the Ruins of the Wind Kingdom.
After fighting their way through the Ruins, they finally reach home. They watch as Joka vaporizes his home along with his Grandpa, before leaving with the Moon Pendant. After battle Baladium, Grandpa reveals that Klonoa's destiny is to stop Ghadius as the Child of the Wind. Pamela then appears and flies them to the Temple of Sun.
Here they meet the priests Solaire and Soliel who explain that Ghadius and Joka have already infiltrated and taken over the Temple. Their ultimate objective is to release the Moon Kingdom using the Moon Pendant which would allow them to infuse Phantomile with nightmare energy. They then recover the Orbs and reactivate the elevator leading to the Sanctuary above but not before learning for Ngapoko that has noticed an Eclipse. This signals that the seal is about to be broken. After speaking with High Priest Moire they make their way to the Altar where they battle Joka. After his defeat they watch as the seal breaks and the Moon Kingdom rises into the air spreading nightmare energy across Phantomile. Pamela flies near and they ride her to the Moon Kingdom to face off against Ghadius.
As they reach the peak of the Cress, the Moon Kingdom they speak to the Queen who reveals that Ghadius has complete control. Huepow is revealed to not be a ring spirit but Prince Huepow of the Moon Kingdom. He promises to explain why he has been hiding his true self once the battle is over. They rush to the Prism Corridor where Ghadius wonders aloud about a strange uncorruptable dream as Klonoa and Huepow teleport in. Ghadius reveals that once Nahatomb has received enough nightmare energy it will awaken. Huepow explains that Ghadius will be erased if Nahatomb awakens but he doesn't care, all he seeks is his revenge. Ghadius absorbs Klonoa and Huepow into his dimension, the Wheel of Woe to finish them off.
After his defeat the five tribe leaders: Balue, King Seadoph, Granny, High Priest Moire and Queen appear along with Pamela and Karal. Unfortunately, Ghadius reveals that Nahatomb has received enough energy to awaken and that it'll hunt the strange dream which is revealed to be Klonoa and destroy it. Queen rushes with the other leaders to arm themselves with ancient weapons against Nahatomb. Klonoa, along with the leaders severely weaken Nahatomb enough that a Wind Bullet, powered by Huepow is used to finish it off once and for all. With Nahatomb's death, the Diva Lephise is freed.
As everyone returns to their lands Klonoa and Huepow return to Breezegale. Huepow reveals to Klonoa that he is an existence that doesn't truly exist in Phantomile. Huepow pulled Klonoa from his world and planted memories of their childhood in his mind. And once the Song of Rebirth is sun, he will be forced out of Phantomile and returned to his world. Lephise then begins the Song of Rebirth and a vortex appears in the sky pulling at Klonoa. Huepow, tries to keep Klonoa from being exiled but fails. With Klonoa sent back to his world, Phantomile is restored and the nightmares finally end.
Ryan A Velasco ( talk) 04:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Granny is never implied to be related to Klonoa, is of a completely different species, and is just called "Chieftess" in the Wiimake. I'm not sure if that was a mistake or speculation, but should it be changed? cogsan ( talk) 18:32, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
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