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Thank you
Gog the Mild. I actually nominated it a few weeks ago. I am also working on a separate article about the
Kisrawan region, but am waiting until this article passes its GAN before moving it to mainspace. That way, I could nominate both for a DYK as well.
Al Ameer (
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17:46, 28 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Provide an extra paragraph on the differences between the Maronites, Twelver Shia Muslims, Alawites and Druze. Were they treated differently by the rulers of the Islamic Levant? Was there a particular incentive to engage in this sort of raiding or was this a cultural melting pot of lawlessness? The 1305 campaign and Historiography sections give hints as to why things went that way but this is not enough.
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Catlemur: I have expanded the Background and Historiography sections. Let me know if this is satisfactory, or should be trimmed or further expanded. Thanks
Al Ameer (
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"A 4,000-strong garrison of Turkish troops was stationed in the city." - Why were Turks stationed in an Arab city?
Changed it to "Mamluk troops", if this suffices. I found the distinction "Turkish", used by the source, as useful to separate them from the local Druze
Buhturids who were also technically Mamluk troops, but other than that it is not necessary. The Mamluks were a military ruling caste of manumitted slave soldiers (and their descendants) who were ethnic Turks or 'Turkified' Circassians and even Mongols and Slavs. Arabic was the language of the state, the Muslim religion and the spoken language of most people in Egypt and the Levant, but the term 'Arab' at that time generally referred to Bedouins/Arab tribesmen or people who were descended from such tribes. Tripoli had been a Frankish city until its capture by the Mamluks and the ethnic identity of its residents in the few years afterward is not clear.
Al Ameer (
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17:09, 23 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Provide a copyright tag that proves that File:BattleOfHoms1299.JPG is public domain in the US.
The blurb under File:BattleOfHoms1299.JPG is too long, it essentially repeats what has already been said in the article proper. Something along the lines of "An illustration of the 1299 Battle of Wadi al-Khaznadar" would suffice.
Add a category related to the persecution of the Maronites to the article. I found Category:Persecution of Christians by Muslims, perhaps there is a more suitable one.--
Catlemur (
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19:57, 19 November 2021 (UTC)reply
I read through the article again and noticed that you use both Kisrawan and Keserwan. Are they the same region? If that is the case it would be nice to use one name consistently. If not, please clarify what's the difference between the two.--
Catlemur (
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10:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)reply
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Catlemur: 'Kisrawan' is the name used by the sources in this article and I believe the common name overall. 'Keserwan', I presume, is the transliteration of the colloquial name for the region. Spelling is consistent now.
Al Ameer (
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19:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)reply
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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Al Ameer son: Interesting articles about how a region came to be. Hook interesting for sure, and the GA is indeed a well-written and well-sourced article. An entire section in
Kisrawan is uncited but I assume it's due to the section prose being effectively just summarizing the campaign article. Both ALT0 and ALT1 are interesting, but I think ALT1 is more fitting for readers who may not be aware that Lebanon has a significant Maronite Christian presence. No significant copyvio by Earwig. You are missing the QPQs with your 208 DYKs though, so ping me when that's done and we can pass the hook(s).
Juxlos (
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05:18, 3 December 2021 (UTC)reply
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Savipolo: Thank you for your recent additions. I had to copyedit and reorganize them, but they are informative and generally relevant to this article as it pertains to the demographic makeup of the Kisrawan prior to the Mamluk assaults. However, there are sourcing issues that need to be resolved. First, we need the specific page numbers for the al-Muhajir source. Second, we need the full reference info for Ibn al-Athir. Are you citing the edited, English translation or the Arabic? If so, please provide the name of the book's editor, a url link if available, and the year the edited book was published. Thank you, --
Al Ameer (
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19:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)reply
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Al Ameer son: After some thinking, the information I added (in the last edit), although relevant, were a bit redundant. It looks much better now to me, unless you want to re-add them. And thank you for writing the article.
Edit: I forgot to provide you with the sources. My bad.
The Chronicle of Ibn Al-Athir for the Crusading Period from Al-Kamil Fi'L-Ta'Rikh.: The Years 491-541/1097-1146 the Coming of the Franks and the Muslim Response (By D.S. Richards)
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Savipolo: Thank you. Unfortunately, I cannot read Arabic very well, could you please provide the specific page numbers from the al-Muhajir source for the information you added to the article?
Al Ameer (
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17:44, 9 December 2021 (UTC)reply