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I thought it wouldn't hurt to add the interesting detail that W.K.Dickson was British (born in France to English/Scottish parents), but this has several times been deleted on the basis that his nationality isn't relevant (while Edison's evidently is). Apparently we don't want to make it too obvious that the person most responsible for the development of the kinetoscope wasn't American. 68.44.187.12 ( talk) 00:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Typical. I was in England in July "69(I was a member of the USAF Occupation Force). I watched the BBC broadcast of the Moon Landing. The BBC did a very detailed search of the lineage of the two men aboard the Lunar Lander and the pilot of the Reentry Vehicle. It was so detailed that the only conclusion I could come to from the information they(the BBC) provided was that there were no Americans aboard those two ships. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.47.120.103 ( talk) 17:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
The lead paragraph states:
Should that really be patent instead? I thought copyright was for published works, not invented devices. DMacks 15:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I have started to read Barry Salt's book Film Style and Technology: History and Analysis, and among some of the early technological developments I've uncovered, Salt cites that the early motion picture film rolls were supplied in quantities of 65 feet by Eastman and 75 feet by Blair. Furthermore, it was possible for the rolls to be made longer by cementing several of them together in the darkroom; however, the unreliability of this method meant that narrative films generally declined to do so, whereas actuality films were more eager to do it for anticipated longer takes. Some of these rolls were cemented together to lengths as long as 1000 feet; the earliest documented usage, though, was for American Mutograph and Biograph in November 1899 for the Jeffries-Sharkey fight. Hope that helps? Girolamo Savonarola 20:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Does Salt ever explicitly state that Eastman or Blair supplied these 65- or 75-foot rolls to Edison? All the main sources (Musser; Robinson; Spehr) describe 50-foot rolls. Though no one explicitly states it, I've been assuming that three of those 50-foot rolls were linked together for the expanded Kinetograph (and then the Kinetoscope) for the Leonard-Cushing fight in June 1894...no source I've seen actually describes a Kinetoscope filmstrip longer than 50 feet (original or spliced) before that occasion.— DCGeist 20:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I just re-read my research notes. Crucially: "From 1895, rolls were 65 feet from Eastman and 75 feet from Blair." Hope that helps! Girolamo Savonarola 22:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I know that I didn't provide references, but there seems to be a common agreement that Carbutt's film was quickly dropped from usage because of stiffness problems which Eastman was able to resolve independently. It seems a crucial point to note, considering the topic and the novelty of the entire field. Girolamo Savonarola 20:04, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks better to me. Thanks for taking the time to answer that! Girolamo Savonarola 01:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it warrants its own article, but Edward H. Amet produced an actual screen projection system in 1895 with the Magniscope. Also he invented the sprocket feed system that is still used on 35mm film to this day. Amet may have sold his patent to Edison, who then adopted the sprocket feed for use in his cameras, kinetoscopes and projectors. Before then, Edison's film was friction fed and not as reliable.
I've just chanced across this article and couldn't believe it didn't have a star. In my opinion, this is a clear FA standard article, and I'd recommend putting up at FAC. Yomangani talk 11:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, if you need some information more about the Kinétograph, you can see the French article here on the article about fr:Kinétoscope. And if I made some mistakes in English, please tell me where ;-) thanks. Mythe Mythe-discussion 23:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
The current diff of the text says that the first order was in Sept 89, followed by another in Feb 90. Spehr, however, says that there were three orders in 89 (Sept - 1 roll, Nov - 6 rolls, Dec - 6 rolls), all for 3/4 inch wide, followed by the February order for 1 inch wide stock. Is the article in error, or did you find a conflicting source? Thanks, Girolamo Savonarola ( talk) 09:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I came to this article because it's today's featured article. At the end of the first paragraph in the Development section, I am seeing the word stuff by itself. It looks like this:
In March 1889, a second caveat was filed, in which the proposed motion picture device was given a name, Kinetoscope, derived from the Greek roots kineto ("movement") and scopos ("to view"). stuff
I thought this was vandalism and was going to remove it, but when I edit the section, I don't see the word there. I don't know where it's coming from. Can someone more technically proficient than me take a look? Thanks. -- Tkynerd ( talk) 17:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, I am new to Wikipedia editing and I am sorry for any mistakes I make formatting, but I think there is a problem when referring to one of the inventions as Projectograph. According to the Library of Congress, it was the Phantograph. I checked the inventor between the two articles and they are the same, and they seem to have similar descriptions. I do not know how to insert links correctly, but here is my try. [1] I'm sorry if I did that wrong. 96.61.16.170 ( talk) 20:15, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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