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Moved from Talk:History of anti-Semitism
The mods to entry for Kielce, 1946 require serious support. Please provide. Thanks. Humus sapiens 10:23, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Perhaps some of the police were of Jewish ethnicity, but that is a different issues. Most secret police in most European communist states came from Christian backgrounds. Does this make the Christians a problem people? Does this mean that Christians were not persecuted at times? No. JeMa 17:34, Dec 17, 2003 (UTC)
The intention of this action was to induce a mass immigration to Palestine, causing troubles to Great Britain after the war and facilitating the implementation of Soviet spies to the West.
I moved that phrase to talk. Sorry but this allegation can't be serious: after 1937, throughout the WW2 and up until the establishment of Israel in 1948, very small number of Jewish immigrants was allowed by the Mandate. That was one of the reasons why many European Jews had nowhere to go and ended up in the Nazi gas chambers. In 1946, thousands of Jewish (and other) refugees still were held in concentration camps for displaced persons (now kept by the Allies) throughout Europe. This was a major point of contention between GB and the Jews. ← Humus sapiens← Talk 07:09, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I have deleted several external links because, IMHO, they didn't satisfy the relevance and quality standards. All historical information about the pogrom is included in links to two published authors Szaynok [1] (historian who published a book about the event) and Pogonowski [2] and is nicely augmented by USHM [3] and fantom.com links [4]. Leichter text [5] is not scientific but rather an emotional impression about the event, Hlond's response [6] was one of hundreds which were expressed about the event (or generally about Christian-Jewish relations e.g. John Paul II) between 1946-2005, link to JTA story [7] about the planned commemoration for the site of pogrom is dated (1996) - current info would be welcomed here. Also, JTA story, in light of Szynok and Pogonowski monographs, is not accurate. Link to Anna Williams [8] doesn't contribute anything new to the history of the event - there are dozens of references like that on the internet. Link to Jewish Virtual Library [9] contains a reprint of Szynok's original article from [10] and as duplicate is not needed.
I am encouraging anybody who is considering reverting my edits to read Szaynok and Pogonowski texts first and discuss them here. -- Ttyre 14:57, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I have deleted the paragraph saying that Kielce pogrom was a trigger for Jewish exodus from Poland as incorrect and too simplistic. My reasons are as followed:
1. There were 2 main waves of Jewish emigration from Poland: first 40,000-50,000 between July and October of 1945, second between May and September 1946 (100,000). Assuming that between May and September 1946 every month an equal number of people left -> 40,000 left in 1946 before Kielce pogrom! Thus, overall, between July 1945 and June 30, 1946 (before Kielce pogrom), 80,000-90,000 Jews left Poland. Source: [11].
2. The reasons for Jewish exodus from Poland as well as from other Central/Eastern European countries were more complex. The main once were: refusal of the Communist regime to return pre-war Jewish property, desire to leave destroyed by the Holocaust communities and build a new life in the British Mandate of Palestine, as well as anti-Communist and anti-Jewish violence. Altogether 250,000 Jews left Poland, Romania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia.
3. The emigration from Poland, although "illegal" was supported by the Polish and Soviet Communist regimes for various reasons. One of them was Soviet attempt to undermine British Mandate in Palestine. -- Ttyre 00:53, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
I would like to remove the sentence: "Eventually, almost all surviving Polish Jews resettled outside Eastern Europe, especially in Israel." from this paragraph. In this context it wrongly suggests that almost all Jews left Poland in result of the pogrom, while we know that many of them left in the later waves of emmigration, including 1968. Some firm figures would be enough, without the misleading commentary. It's only a speculation as to what extent the pogrom contributed to the emmigration, as the real reasons were much more complex than that. -- Lysy ( talk) 17:11, 2 August 2005 (UTC)