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if the characterisation of Khanbaliq as the ancient Mongol name for Beijing is totally correct. I am not a historian, but I have been told that the Ming did not only 'rebuild' the city, they virtually 'buried' the capital of the hated Mongols under their new city. (This was in contrast to the Manchus, who simply took over the Ming city without much change.)
I personally feel that a description along the lines of 'Khanbaliq was the capital of the ancient Mongol Empire and stood on the site of the modern city of Beijing. ...... ...... The city was completely rebuilt by the Ming and moved several kilometres south in the process.'
I suggest that there may be POV problems involved. To say that Khanbaliq is Beijing emphasises the continuity of the city's existence, which is a view that modern Beijing would like to promote (the 悠久的历史 line) and is also slightly Sinocentric, in that it follows the Chinese historiographical tradition of forcing history into an orderly succession of dynasties.
Are there any historians who could comment on this? Bathrobe 23:23, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
doesn't the fact that Khanbaliq was used before the city was even founded implies it is not even referring to this city in question? 58.182.210.94 ( talk) 11:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
This city has more variations on its name than Gaddafi did. I've run into similar things before but is there any version of {{ Persondata}} available for places that lets us list and search for name variants without needing to include all of them in the running text? I don't really want to have to look at "Cambaliech" or "Khanbalykh" or "Ta-tou" or "Khān Bāliķ" but we should be able to list them somewhere in the metadata. — LlywelynII 09:07, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Pretty sure we can't use these for copyright reasons
but the information certainly isn't so if someone has a friend on the map-drawing board, we might be able to mock up something more detailed and better-looking than what we're using now.
Similarly,
We should also be able to find some surviving art from the period or shots of the Tucheng. — LlywelynII 11:46, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Although Great metropolitan has redirected here since 2006, no pages link to that and there is no basis for that name in the article – the term "metropolitan" is not used in the article. While Great capital is used, and that term is validated by the article text. "Great metropolitan" just strikes me as bad English. Good English would use "Great city" or "Great metropolitan area". Thus, I am redirecting Great metropolitan to Great Metropolitan Handicap. – Wbm1058 ( talk) 14:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
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Baliq means fish in Azeri (Azerbaijani). Isn't this the case in the etymology of the word Khanbaliq? (Based on the fact that Turkic languages were predominant in the region at that time.) Aminabzz ( talk) 15:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)