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Southernmost point question
Reference is made to the private property just east of the "official" marker which is further south. The aerial view from Google Maps shows that the property has its own marker in its southwest corner (a flagpole with emblematic design on the ground). Should this be mentioned? According to the images on Google Maps, this property is a hotel, rather than a private residence, so there might be secondary sources on this. Related question: would this, therefore, be the southernmost commercial business in the 48?
136.159.160.5 (
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19:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Requested move 18 April 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Oppose - it's a place name, yes, but it's also an island/geographic feature.
Nantucket is a standalone article, not Nantucket, Massachusetts, because it's an island. There is indeed
Key Largo and [{Key Largo, Florida]], but that's a case where the island has multiple jurisdictions, so the state name in the title is needed. Per
WP:TITLE, the title needs to distinguish the subject matter. This "Key West" is by far more notable than any of the other Key Wests. I'd only support moving if Kanye/Kim have another kid and name it "Key". ♫
Hurricanehink (
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14:33, 18 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I think that it's a case by case basis. I came here for the discussion on Key West (As I have this page watched, nothing like being reminded of the southernmost point in Florida when you're stuck inside). As for Key Largo, no, I wouldn't support such a move. Islands don't usually have (island) in the article title. ♫
Hurricanehink (
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15:31, 18 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: If this article is supposed to be focused more on the island than the city, like the
Nantucket article, the prose -- and especially the lead section -- should probably be written like it. e.g. Key West is an island ... together with
Dredgers Key, it constitutes the City of Key West. Otherwise, you will probably get this kind of confusion regarding
WP:USPLACE in the future.
Zzyzx11 (
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06:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure how feasible that would be since the island and the city constitute identical overlapping territory. Are there any examples on Wikipedia of an island and a municipality constituting the exact same geographic territory having separate articles? I'd like to see what that looks like if there are.
Rreagan007 (
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03:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)reply
The city of Simi Valley is almost entirely coterminous with the valley. The city does have a parcel of land in the
Simi Hills to the south, but no one lives there so it's practically irrelevant to the city article. --
King of♥♦♣ ♠
04:03, 25 April 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Lack of any LGBTQ references
This article seems purposely purged of any references to the historical or present links to the LGBTQ community. Not only are these real and strong, but the migration of LGBTQ members, great artists like Tennessee Williams and Leonard Bernstein to ordinary gay citizens looking for a quiet life away from hatred, is responsible for bolstering the economy of the island to this day. I am not an amateur historian but many of you are and I hope someone will take initiative to add a well referenced section on the topic to this article.
108.7.160.150 (
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14:19, 6 August 2022 (UTC)reply
There are two issues to consider. First, are there
reliable sources about the LGBTQ community in Key West? Second, if reliable sources exist, how significant is that community in the city? Note that the requirement for reliable sources is set in stone, the question of significance to and suitability for the article is subject to community discussion. If you are aware of reliable sources, you can add relevant material to the article that is supported by those reliable sources, with
citations. If other editors disagree with the additions, then they can be discussed on this page (see
BRD). -
Donald Albury13:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)reply