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HSBC Arena (Buffalo) →
HSBC Arena – The Buffalo arena is likely the primary topic for the term "HSBC Arena". It receives about twice as many pageviews as the Brazilian arena, even in the summer months (in the winter, it's closer to four times). It is far more likely to be the arena for which readers are searching.
PowersT17:20, 22 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Note also that since there are only two options, the other arena can be linked directly in a hatnote, which would make the disambiguation page superfluous. We could delete the disambiguation page and make it so everyone was only zero or one click away from the article they want to read.
PowersT02:16, 24 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Its sounds like this is going to be renamed in a 2pm press conference today. I would assume it will be something along the lines of "First Niagara Arena" after the bank that is buying all of HSBC's upstate new york branches. Hold off on any HSBC related disambig discussions.
TerminalPreppie (
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15:30, 25 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Huh, go figure. Ted Black just said a few days ago that since First Niagara wasn't acquiring HSBC but merely HSBC's upstate branches, that talk of an arena name change was premature. (It's especially surprising since the purchase deal doesn't close until January.) Nonetheless, I believe this arena will continue to be the primary topic for the term "HSBC Arena" even after the name changes (which probably won't be today).
PowersT17:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Yes, it could be a while before it actually happens (as I noted in the comments of the move revert I just did): its was months before they officially changed the name down here with the
Wells Fargo Center. Either way, I would give the main article to the Brazilian arena (its going to be an Olympic venue BTW) with a simple disambig note in its header pointing to
New Buffalo Arena name.
TerminalPreppie (
talk)
17:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)reply
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First Niagara Center
I realize it's fun to be the "first" to get to change the name of a place and all, but please do wait until the name change actually occurs. The change won't be fully in place until shortly before the season starts.
PowersT21:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)reply
Did they actually say "from this point forward"? The last I heard is that the signage would be changing over over the next six weeks or so.
PowersT21:23, 25 August 2011 (UTC)reply
By all accounts, it sounds like the name is official.
[1][2][3] I'm not seeing anything that says it will be finalized in a few weeks, based on those, it sounds like it's done.--Giants27(
T|
C)21:45, 25 August 2011 (UTC)reply
The name change has been made official. All HSBC Arena websites have been renamed as the First Niagara Center.
[4] I think the title of the article should then be renamed as the change is official as of August 25, 2011.Babyox4420 (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
21:56, 25 August 2011 (UTC).reply
Can we stop the back-and-forth on using the definite article in the lead? Popular usage is not yet established one way or another, and neither is clearly incorrect grammatically.
PowersT12:56, 28 August 2011 (UTC)reply
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