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Can I query some of the claims in this para:
This seems a bit like Eurosceptic POV. Mosley did indeed call for "Europe a Nation" but as students of both fascism and European Union know, Mosley's idea was more like a development of pre-war Strasserite theories on European civilisation than a precursor to Jean Monnet and the European Coal and Steel Community. I haven't heard Clarke calling for a single nation across Europe; he is far more comfortably placed among those moderate politicians of both left and right who believe that European integration with all its attendant problems is good at preventing war and promoting trade.
Furthermore I note that this section was added by an anon user who has made some interesting edits to other articles, q.v.. Dbiv 20:51, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
RE: Legal aid 'to be limited to those with under £1,000 in assets' to cut costs
Mail On Sunday 14th November 2010
"Justice Secretary Kenneth Clarke has warned 'those who need it most' will be eligible for legal aidState help with civil legal costs will be restricted to people with assets including homes worth less than £1,000 under cost-cutting measures < http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1329355/Legal-aid-limited-1-000-assets-cut-costs.html#ixzz15FdlE9zM>. Was this actually in his original Manifesto? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.98.61 ( talk) 10:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Someone removed the bit about membership of the Bilderberg Group. I'll present a little evidence:
I doubt this is a coincidence. In conjunction with the fact that Clarke is named by the BBC as a member [2], I rest my case. Evercat 12:50, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
You're reading rather more into it than you need to - it's just 8 words noting his membership. What goes on in the meetings I have no idea, though you can hardly claim that secret meetings between the most influential people in the world are not important or notable. I'm restoring it to the top, since I don't see that it belongs in the "Opposition" section. Evercat 21:09, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
OK, I can live with the current wording. Evercat 21:37, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
After I added Clarke to the category category:Bilderberg Attendees my edit was promptly reversed ( diff) on the basis that the BBC News reference was 'not definitive' that he attended meetings (despite the BBC News article clearly and unambiguously stating that the Bilderberg Group includes Clarke). I have added a second published reference with quotes from the sources and re-added the category. Should anyone still object there are several other newspaper sources stating he has attended Bilderberg Conferences but I feel that two published reliable sources are sufficient in order to support this categorization.— Teahot ( talk) 10:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I have had a go at revising the prose of this page. Perhaps most visible is making bullet lists for the corporate and media work and separating those two which were bizarrely mixed together (deputy chairmanships and the BBC jazz gig). Don't think I changed anything factually except for tense (he'll have to have dropped the jobs now he's Lord Chancellor) & hope all are happy with it. Iph ( talk) 14:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Google YouTube Kenneth Clarke Bilderberg and you will find many videos confirming the attendance of Kenneth Clarke to Bilderberg meetings. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0LR4N-rsCXc
The above shows how previous Wikipedia edits to discredit editors which made the above claims were wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.244.181 ( talk) 00:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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The neutrality of this article is disputed. The involvement of Kenneth Clarke in Bilderberg Meetings needs to be included. Previous edits showed bias reporting, as all references to Bilderberg were removed from the main article.
Proof of Kenneth Clarke involvement in Bilderberg:
MP's Discuss Bilderberg in the House of Commons http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0LR4N-rsCXc
Ben Fellows who accused Clarke of sexual assault was cleared of Contempt for Court Clarke accuser cleared( Coachtripfan ( talk) 16:20, 4 August 2015 (UTC))
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Why is there no mention of the allegations that he raped a teenage boy? ( 5.81.222.127 ( talk) 16:00, 7 March 2016 (UTC))
There was no speculation. I used direct quotes and those were widely reported by many highly-respected news media. I have added that section again. It is valid and fully cited. I have since updated it, adding a citation including the video clip of Clarke's comments at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/05/ken-clarke-caught-on-camera-ridiculing-conservative-leadership-c/ Peter K Burian ( talk) 16:23, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
www.theguardian.com › Politics › Kenneth Clarke apparently unaware that the camera was rolling.
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Tory-big-beast-Ken-Clarke-brands-Michael-Gove-... apparently believing he was not being recorded.
huntnews.in/p/detail/2637202843560285?uc_param_str... apparently unaware he was being recorded.
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Tory-big-beast-Ken-Clarke-brands-Michael-Gove-...
apparently believing he. And many other confirmations that he was apparently unaware that the cameras were on. Peter K Burian ( talk) 17:08, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
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It would be interesting to know how "genuine" his QC-ship actually is. I've been flicking through his memoirs recently and he doesn't mention the promotion at all. It used to be not uncommon for barrister-MPs to be made an honorary QC ("false silk" as it was sometimes derisively known), although the practice is now discontinued. Michael Howard is actually a "genuine" QC and practised as such before getting into Parliament relatively late in his forties; Thatcher was only ever a practising barrister for a few years in the late 1950s (she was called after her kids were born) so she never qualified even for the honorific, although one suspects that like Tony Blair she would have been a very successful barrister if she had stuck at it.
Clarke had been a barrister for 16-17 years by 1980, a usual period for taking silk, but five of those had been spent in government. He seems to have done hack work in criminal and personal injury law, and he writes about his exhausting 3-way commute between Parliament (in the evenings, in those days), his seat in the East Midlands at the weekend and his "day job" in Birmingham, usually mugging up tomorrow's cases on the late train up each night. He only mentions his rank when he mentions that his chambers approached him in 1997 to rejoin them, but he felt that he would have needed a very good junior to update him on the changes in the law since he had last practised.
In those days silk was much more a question of the "tap on the shoulder, old boy" from one's seniors rather than today's formal application process. I get the impression that Clarke was probably a competent rather than an outstanding barrister, but I may be wrong. Maybe, although his promotion wasn't purely honorary, his successful ministerial career was another reason why he got picked. I'm not trying to score points either for or against Clarke here - I'm genuinely interested.
It's so long ago now that we are unlikely to know unless Clarke himself has spoken on the matter, and my view FWIW is that his silence is probably a give-away. There were a couple of instant biogs written of him circa 1993, when he seemed a likely successor to Major, but my copies are buried deep in the attic. Maybe one of them might shed some light. Paulturtle ( talk) 16:07, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
It was said on the Radio Four programme More or Less in May 2018 that Kenneth Clarke holds the record for most appearances on Question Time, having appeared 58 times. This could go in this article. Vorbee ( talk) 19:23, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
In 1981, in the Dept of Transport, Clarke moved from the former to the latter.
According to the two wiki links, both positions are the 3rd tier of govt, below Min of State and above PPS.
So can we please clarify what this means. How did his role change, was it a promotion?
Not just here, but in the two links.
All the best. Ganpati23 ( talk) 22:15, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Stop changing him to independent. There has been no official confirmation that he has been thrown out of the party. 184.102.100.31 ( talk) 23:01, 3 September 2019 (UTC)