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I'd like to make a request for a condensation of the response section, given how incredibly outweighed the positive responses to the documentary are by negative ones. I just don't think it needs to be quite that long. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.232.115 ( talk) 07:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
What's up with the "Teacher's Guide Controversy" thing? That has DI POV throughout. -- Wesley R. Elsberry ( talk) 18:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Do we have any balancing material now that a few months have gone by?-- Filll ( talk) 18:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I am sorry this section got trimmed back. I think they had such incredible commentary on the documentary.-- Filll ( talk) 17:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The episode won the Peabody Award. That seems like a good thing to add. -- Wesley R. Elsberry ( talk) 20:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
This section gives WP:UNDUE weight to the DI, which is a extremist and unreliable source for constitutional law. Hrafn Talk Stalk 18:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
The Discovery Institute has announced that a teacher's guide issued by PBS in conjunction with Judgment Day constitutes a violation of the constitutional separation of church and state. [1] [2] The Discovery Institute claims that the guide, called “Briefing Packet for Educators”, [3] violates the Establishment Clause of the US constitution by suggesting discussion questions like
Can you accept evolution and still believe in religion? A: Yes. The common view that evolution is inherently antireligious is simply false.
Randal Wegner, a Pennsylvania attorney who filed amicus curae briefs in the Dover trial, opined that
The PBS materials, in suggesting that students need not be concerned that evolution violates their religion, ironically equip public school teachers to violate our current conception of the First Amendment by explicitly teaching students concerning matters of religious belief,” adds Wenger. “The irony is that discussing intelligent design would not teach any student about any religious belief—the PBS materials, on the other hand, will. [1]
The Discovery Institute has 15 attorneys and legal scholars who are experts in constitutional law investigating this issue. [4] In addition, the Discovery Institute has issued its own guide for teachers, called The Theory of Intelligent Design: A briefing packet for educators to help them understand the debate between Darwinian evolution and intelligent design. [1] New Scientist quotes an attorney for WGBH, who contended that the statements in the teacher's guide are covered under the right to free speech. [5] [6]
[End removed material Hrafn Talk Stalk 18:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC) ]
References
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help page).I was reading this article again and noticed we dedicate a single paragraph to the mainstream views on the movie and about 2-3 times that amount to organizations that promote pseudoscience and other fringe theories. Is this for a reason? If not I'd suggest we narrow the hostile reaction to a single sentence simply stating intelligent design and other creationist organizations like AIG, DI, objected to the film and then add brief details about the anti-Nova literature they produced. Not sure if I'm making sense but it appears we're giving quite a megaphone to fringe elements. Angry Christian ( talk) 17:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC) What i'm trying to say is I think we could summarize their views on the film instead of giving their fringe perspective such a dominate voice in this section of the article. Angry Christian ( talk) 17:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I am a firm believer in tracking the wingnuts. And keeping track of their rants. It is a bit difficult to track these loons if we keep removing information about them from Wikipedia.--
Filll (
talk)
14:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The article contains the following line:
WKNO-TV, the local PBS affiliate in Memphis decided not to air the documentary because of the "controversial nature" of the subject, but has since promised to broadcast it in 2008.[13]
Since 2008 is coming to an end, can anyone confirm whether or not the documentary was broadcast on WKNO-TV? Stefan Kruithof ( talk) 12:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)