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Did you know... that Josiane Lima won Brazil's first Paralympic rowing medal?
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... that rower Josiane Lima has competed at every Paralympic Games that has featured her sport, being proud to represent queer indigenous women in sport, and won Brazil's first rowing medal?
ALT1: ... that rower Josiane Lima has competed at every
Paralympic Games that has featured her sport, and won Brazil's first rowing medal?
Article new enough and long enough. Well-referenced throughout, hook is verified with 2 sources. QPQ done, copyvio says no. The Brazilian sources seems to only say "first Paralympic rowing medal", though, not "first rowing medal"?. Added an ALT1 as "proud" is sort of subjective.
Juxlos (
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12:44, 16 January 2023 (UTC)reply
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Juxlos: I think at least one of the sources says something like "Brazil's first medal in her sport", I can't remember if in Portuguese or English, though I guess you can also go through
Brazil at the Summer Olympics and see there haven't been any rowing medals there ;) - and in the ESPN mini-doc, she says proud (orgulhosa) several times, for what it's worth - but I would be fine with the alt.
Kingsif (
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22:16, 16 January 2023 (UTC)reply
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Bruxton: I can't remember what is and what isn't in that source, it's a bit long for me to go over right now - but did you check the one right next to it? Because that's all it says. Of course, re. appearing in body text, I thought I had included it with the last paragraph of the career section, apparently not. I suppose it is perhaps asking too much to consider mentions of her competing in each of those Paralympic Games to convey the superlative - will incorporate.
Kingsif (
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04:14, 20 January 2023 (UTC)reply
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RoySmith: Tweets from random people, no, but a tweet from
World Rowing? Come on. And the midia Ninja source isn't just an interview, it's like a profile that incorporates an interview - and it's a very respected independent outlet, especially covering women. If these aren't considered RS, something is wrong.
Kingsif (
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01:48, 21 January 2023 (UTC)reply
If determined unacceptable, maybe a second ALT:
ALT2: ... that Paralympic rower Josiane Lima won Brazil's first rowing medal?
Well that doesn't seem to have worked, ping @
Bruxton:; while we're here, to anyone, is it possible to mark this as a special occasion hook for women's day? I know we're doing a set or two for that.
Kingsif (
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06:45, 26 January 2023 (UTC)reply
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it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline;
reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);
2a. The article contains a list of references, in an appropriately titled section. A few non-GA required recommendations for the formatting of the references themselves below.
Recommend adding the date of publication (30 January 2022) to reference #1.
Recommend adding the date of publication (30 July 2020) to reference #2.
Recommend changing to title case for the title in reference #3, per the MOS.
Recommend adding the date of publication (16 February 2014) to reference #4.
Recommend adding the date of publication (1 February 2011) to reference #5.
Recommend adding the date of publication (17 March 2022) to reference #7.
Recommend shortening the title to just "For these para rowers it is all four Paralympic Games", and adding the date of publication (19 August 2021) to reference #8.
Recommend adding the date of publication (30 July 2020) to reference #9.
Recommend adding the date of publication (27 January 2012) to reference #11.
Recommend adding that reference #12 is in Portuguese.
Recommend adding that reference #13 is in the PDF format.
Recommend adding the author (Mike Rowbottom) to reference #14.
Recommend being consistent whether "World Rowing" is listed as the publisher or the website. Refs #3, #5, #6, #8, #9, #11, #13, and #15 all use it, but vary in style.
Done All above - "World Rowing" was only listed as author/publisher when the source was not the World Rowing website (Twitter, document at Olympics.com) and I have made this clearer.
Kingsif (
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22:10, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
2b. With the caveat below, all citations are from reliable sources.
Three of the sources are to social media (Twitter, YouTube and Instagram), but in each case are justified: the Twitter post is from World Rowing, the YouTube video is from ESPN, and the Instagram post is from the subject herself, and is used to source a personal belief. As such, I have also removed the "non-primary source needed" tag.
2c. All significant information is sourced. Spotchecks carried out on three facts cited to accessible sources:
"She was immediately entered into competition for the 2006 World Rowing Championships with Rafael Luz in the mixed doubles sculls. She came back with Lucas Pagani as her partner for the 2007 World Rowing Championships, and the pair took the gold." Sourced to ref #8 – appears in the source.
"Lima contracted a sinus infection shortly before the Games and was displeased with the air quality in Beijing, noting that while she and Santana dominated the race for the first three-quarters, she got blurred vision and was seeing stars at the end." Sourced to ref #9 – appears in the source.
"This medal led to them being described as ones to watch ahead of the Rio 2016 Summer Paralympics, held in Brazil, by World Rowing." Sourced to ref #13 – appears in the source.
2d. Spotchecks on those same sources for copyvio or close-paraphrasing reveals no concerns.
Images
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images,
video, or
audio:
Consider linking "sculls" to
Sculling on first use.
Done Added a simple mention with link; I considered adding it to text already present but "double sculls"/"single sculls" are the proper names of events, so the link feels improper (breaking up the name and linking to the motion rather than event).
Kingsif (
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22:20, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
"This medal led to them being described as ones to watch ahead of the Rio 2016 Summer Paralympics, held in Brazil, by World Rowing." I'm not keen on the "by World Rowing" tacked on at the end here, it feels awkward. Maybe something like: "This medal led to them being described by World Rowing as ones to watch ahead of the Rio 2016 Summer Paralympics, held in Brazil."
Done
"..to win the small final." What is a small final?
A race to place the teams who do not make the final, in events where overall placement is important. Fairly common across sports that have world rankings or qualifying positions (rather than times), there might be a wiktionary entry to link but I doubt it.
Kingsif (
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22:20, 4 April 2023 (UTC)reply
it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see
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3a. No apparent significant gaps.
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