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Three queries that don't need to disturb the FA debate. Ignore if unhelpful. I'd like to hear something about the nature of the narrator. They write as if they and their expected readers inhabit the world described (at a later date), but are otherwise omniscient in the common manner of fictional third person narrators (a literary trick also used in Neil Gaiman's Stardust). Clarke says something on the subject in the reply to the Crooked Timber blog discussion here.
The article compares David Foster Wallace and Pynchon for the footnoting: readers of a British fantasy work might perhaps think either of Terry Pratchett or of The Third Policeman.
The pastiche style (particularly the Dickensian playfulness) reminded me a lot of Leon Garfield. Has Clarke ever mentioned him as an influence? N p holmes ( talk) 10:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Should not the article have a more extensive list on what people, places, events, etc. in the novel are actually real? Maybe a subarticle?
In any event, for the record, the sale of the library of the Duke of Roxburghe which is an important plot element of Chapter 28 actually happened and Google Books has a contemporary document for it. [1]
Also Colquhoun Grant from Chapter 31 was real. His entry in Wikipedia mentions the novel, but there is no mention of him in the article for the novel. Obviously many other examples could be cited. 68.97.13.204 ( talk) 14:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Title: Miss J. Austen, Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell. By: Bander, Elaine, Persuasions: The Jane Austen Journal Online, 15597520, , Vol. 29, Issue 1 Database: Literary Reference Center "Moreover, Clarke's characters mention actual writers, artists, institutions and public figures of the day, such as Madame d'Arblay (72), Ackermann (136), Castlereagh (165), Canning (176), The Gentleman's Magazine (225), Mr. Beckford, Mr. Lewis and Mrs. Radcliffe (245), Haig and Chippendale's Upholstery (259), Wedgewood (260), Mrs. Edgeworth's Belinda (262), Wellington and the Peninsula campaign (285 ff), Goya (333), the King's madness, the Prince Regent, and the rival Royal Dukes (Ch. 32), Cruickshank and Rowlandson (407), Mr. Jeffrey and The Edinburgh Review (410ff), Brussels on the eve of Waterloo (430ff), the Princesses at Windsor (467), the publisher John Murray (passim), Lord Byron, his friends and his lovers (553ff), D'Israeli's Flim-Flams and Miss Austen's Emma (557)." Woken Wanderer ( talk) 01:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
RE: "Should not the article have a more extensive list on what people, places, events, etc. in the novel are actually real?" I would disagree, because I think that the impact that the novel achieves on the reader, or at least the contemporary English reader, is achieved by producing a deliberate alternative history. Without wishing to be affectedly post-modern, least of all with respect to history and/or historical fact, I think this book uses "re-imagining" of "real" history to address 21st century issues in English identity. I'm aware that I'm swimming upstream on this point, given the deletion of the edit I'd made suggesting this line of interpretation, but I think that any entry on this novel must include the socio-cultural theme that England is a fusion of divergent cultural identities, and that this novel inverts the the commonly-held geographical trope that Southern England is the dominant locus of power and model of identity, in this country. Specifically, the novel confronts the "real" men ruling England, and its Empire, with Northern England being a war-winning but, magical Danelaw; complete with its own once and future wizard-king, with whom they have a treaty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeoffAyres77 ( talk • contribs) 02:02, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
I just read the book and I think the summary is misleading. I don't know the etiquette so I won't edit the text.
«At Strange's request, Flora moves with her family to Padua and secludes herself inside her home, along with a mirror given to her by Strange.» It was more like Strange asks Dr Greysteel to get rid of Flora. And the Dr stays with Strange.
Is Lyocell an alternative spelling of Lascelles?
«Strange returns and gives Childermass instructions which allow him to free Lady Pole from the fairy's enchantment. Strange, bringing "Eternal Night" with him, asks Norrell to help him undo Arabella's enchantment by summoning John Uskglass.» makes it look like Strange directly talked with Childermass, when it was by accident, since Drawlight was killed by Lascelles before he could deliver the 3 messages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:4201:7930:AC36:9D87:FD3E:A440 ( talk) 05:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy works (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. This book would qualify. Anyone care to add it? Tamtrible ( talk) 18:36, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
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The caption of the cover image suggests the book's first edition was released with variant covers. I'd like to see something brief about that in the article since it seems a bit unusual. I did a quick search and it looks like there were at least red and parchment-colored versions in addition to the black, but I didn't find any sources that talk about it. Colintedford ( talk) 14:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC)