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Please provide factual and neutral point of view in entries, per Wikipedia guidelines. The facts on Rep. Barton's record speak loudly and clearly enough about his positions that commentary is not needed. References to criticisms should be included where appropriate. Jason Coleman 23:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
page need to be updated for 2006 election 64.132.172.213 19:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Quote sections should be avoided in Wikipedia articles. Please try to work the quotes into the existing text or remove them altogether.-- Gloriamarie 21:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
The quotes section seems to mostly consist of inflammatory remarks made by the senator; and many are given without much context. This section should certainly be removed. 209.242.154.132 ( talk) 21:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
The Criticism section rambles on about oil prices and oil companies as if someone is trying to paint a picture of the oil industry and it is very opinionated in stating that prices were 'too low for the likes of oil companies'. Also, nothing in that section has references. It's more like a kid's blog than an encyclopedia entry.
Is the list of resolutions Rep. Barton has introduced worth having? It's basically just http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d110&querybd=@BANDNOT(@FIELD(FLD003+@1(00062))+@FIELD(FLD008+(m))). Reb42 ( talk) 06:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to remove this listing, and add a link to thomas.loc.gov. Reb42 ( talk) 06:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Someone should add someting about his call for BCS playoffs to determine #1. -- 76.31.242.174 ( talk) 22:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I am deleting the criticism section and the subsections for it:
Barton's comments about Alaskan oil with regard to Dr. Chu's testimony are noteworthy and indicative of both his scientific and political views. Removing them claiming NPOV:UNDUE is specious at best, since these can be sourced from a variety of places besides Think Progress. Regardless, you do not claim that this specific source or the others are incorrect nor explain why they are not a "sufficient" number of sources. What do you mean by this? Insufficient to prove that he made these comments? Additionally, I would challenge you to show the cited sources do not meet the burden for verifiability. I'm curious as to why you later remove a second time but then claim NPOV:RECENT instead, changing your removal rationale; to quote NPOV:RECENT "Recentism is not by itself an argument for article deletion". The fact that you change your justification for deletion seems, at least to me, to be evidence that you are removing material simply because it is critical and attempting to justify such removal after the fact. I would ask that other editors please comment on what I have written here before I restore these edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.249.178.66 ( talk) 20:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC) He is a true tool of big oil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.117.142 ( talk) 23:23, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
We have entire sections devoted to short paragraphs on the subject's votes on:
There's no indication that these are especially important votes for him - he isn't listing as the author or sponsor of either one, nor even a notable supporter. Like all of his colleagues he's voted on numerous bills while in Congress. Though the material is verifiable, it seems like undue weight to pick these two bills for special treatment. Any objection to removing them? Or what about just condensing it to a sentence like "he opposed X, and voted for Y and Z"? Will Beback talk 07:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
This entire article which was writeen immediately following Barton's comment regarding a "shakedown" and BP has a clear and obvious bias throughout. It assumes that the reader should agree with the author about healthcare legislation, "global warming," and a variety of favorite lefty causes, despite a growing discontent with the hard left agenda currently being forced on the public by the current administration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.112.57 ( talk) 10:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Barton's comments and history make it appropriate. The comment citing "the hard left agenda currently being forced on the public by the current administration" reveals a bias that should dicount any contribution form that user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhfjbaker ( talk • contribs) 16:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Clearly this section was written with a strong bias regarding Congressman Joe Barton's views on the environment. It appears to have been written with an agenda to demean the Congressman. It is very poorly cited and the references given at times do not correlate with the text written. For example, the second paragraph says "Barton has consistently acted over the years to prevent congressional action on global warming." This sentence is backed up with a reference regarding a Washington Post article that only mentions Barton once, saying, "the panel's top Republican, Joe Barton (Tex.), does not believe human activities contribute to global warming." Obviously, this says nothing about his record of preventing "congressional action on global warming." Because Congressman Barton is a living person, this article is subject to Wikipedia's standards on biographies of living persons and all information on this page must be verified or deleted immediately. Eaglecap Backpack ( talk) 19:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Because the user has created the paragraph headline "Environmental Record", this does validate what has become a clearly biased sounding board of deliberations on the congressman's record. "Neutral point of view" is one of Wikipedia's three core content policies, along with "Verifiability" and "No original research." This lengthy section plainly has not been written in the spirit of Wikipedia's fundamental policies and should be deleted or heavily revised. Wikipedia is a free-content encyclopedia created to be a reference of factual and non-biased information. This is not the Huffington Post. Kristoffer Lance (talk) 23:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Please change: Vice President Joe Biden called Biden's remarks "outrageous" and "incredibly out of touch to Vice President Joe Biden called Barton's remarks "outrageous" and "incredibly out of touch Thanks Danreo1952 ( talk) 23:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
The reference [4] does not seem to pertain to the sentence that it supposedly cites.
Here is the section in the article:
"The Congressman is the Ranking Minority Member on the Energy & Commerce Committee and during the June 17, 2010 hearings on the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, apologized to BP for what he termed the $20 billion "shakedown" of BP by the White House.[4]"
If you click on the hyperlink for [4], you will be directed to a pbs.org page that was created back in 2007, long before the whole BP shakedown ordeal occurred. Furthermore, the whole page is the text for a fatwa (declaration of war) by Osama bin Laden and is not germane to the actual quote that Barton gave regarding the BP shakedown. Here is the link for [4]:
4. ^ a b ("Citizens for Ethics full and final report". Citizens for Ethics. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html. Retrieved 2007-06-20. ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deedee9000 ( talk • contribs) 15:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
I 'regrouped' the information the way most US Senator and Rep articles are organized (see John Cornyn for example). Each section still needs work (re: weight, bias, other political views, etc.) but it's a start. Flatterworld ( talk) 13:26, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} They left out a refrence on Campaign Finance which I used many times with Joe Barton.
I removed the following from the article for discuission:
Barton also brought the bill of stopping efficiency standards and the selling of incandescent bulbs in the BULB Act (H.R. 2417), brought before the House in July 2011. Senator bartons largest campaign contributors are utility companies<ref>http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00005656</ref>
While he certainly did do this, this is a problematic passage--the fact that Barton is not a Senator being the least of the issues present in this paragraph. Can we have some input from the community? 99.113.204.35 ( talk) 03:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I wonder if a better citation for this section would be the transcript from the Committee Hearing where Barton made the "Wind is God’s way of balancing heat..." statement (page 102): [1] KLOLvonJoulupukki ( talk) 18:47, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Section = 109 BLP articles labelled "Climate Change Deniers" all at once. This article was placed in a "climate change deniers" category. After discussion on
WP:BLPN and
WP:CFD the category was deleted.
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According to the manual of style, the lede section should summarize key points in the article, which is what was done -- removing this summary -- which is well referenced in neutral and reliable sources, strikes me as highly POV-ish. If one can offer a better summary of the key positions -- again with references -- please do so.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 14:14, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Should discussion of this be included in the article? power~enwiki ( π, ν) 19:26, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
https://mobile.twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/933452214886191104?p=v
There's a controversy thats at play here Laura Loomer and Alex Jones were named in some political blogs for releasing the nude pictures of Congressman Joe Barton on November 22nd, 2017 note this controversy is still being verified by multiple sources and allegations that Alex Jones and Laura Loomer committing revenge porn against Barton is being speculated here at the time of post.
Also put a lock on Barton given how the updates are going to be here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F950Gr3oNL4
Apparently Infowars has the video of Joe Barton in questionable positions they have the video edition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:640:C600:8270:0:0:0:451D ( talk) 04:56, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Update more blogs are accusing Alex Jones for releasing the Joe Barton video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.130.165 ( talk) 22:03, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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On the section, "Sex Scandal" there has been repeated attempts to add the part in which the Democratic Michigan Attorney General candidate (not even the nominee) said in a campaign ad, in apparent reference to the Barton scandal, that in her election voters should ask themselves: "Who can you trust most not to show you their penis." I deleted this part assuming that this quote isn't really relevant for two reasons. First, the speaker in question isn't important enough in that she isn't even yet a nominee for the attorney general in Michigan (not even in Texas) and isn't even famous enough to have her own article here in Wikipedia. If the remark was given by the Texas Governor or the Democratic Attorney General nominee in Texas, I would concur, but the opinions of an obscure candidate outside Texas deserving a part here in this page just because she said "penis" doesn't sound like a reason to put this here. Second, most of the news was cited by either tabloids or local newspapers outside Texas such as the Miami Herald, the News Tribune in Tacoma, Washington and others. I welcome other opinions on this issue.
N.B. My previous edit removing this part was reverted by User:2604:2000:e016:a700:5c70:55f9:38ef:f6d1 so I invite him or her to the discussion as well. -- Daffy123 ( talk) 15:22, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
An editor has deleted text supported by five RS sources; the Miami Herald (founded in 1903, it is the second largest newspaper in South Florida), the Wichita Eagle (the largest newspaper in Wichita and the surrounding area), The News Tribune (which traces its origins back to 1880), AdAge (which traces its origins back to 1880), and Stuff.co.nz (New Zealand's top-visited news website).
The deleting editor wrote as his reason: "the sources added aren't Texan or of national newspaper and more or less tabloid." First of all -- he is completely confused if he thinks that the sources have to be Texan. Editors are not allowed to make up non-existent rules. In fact, at Wikipedia, we view coverage from sources around (and here, even outside) the US as being stronger indicia of notability than using only local sources from one locale. Furthermore, the editor is simply wrong -- as demonstrated above, these are very strong RSs, many of them both large and tracing back over a century -- not at all "tabloids."
Further, the editor misunderstands Wikipedia standards for inclusion. Even though five separate RS sources have considered the material newsworthy -- in fact, newsworthy enough to devote entire articles to it -- the editor has substituted his subjective view as to what is newsworthy, to delete them. In fact, the editor further evidences his lack of familiarity with what is sufficiently notable to include in an article by arguing "the speaker in question is a mere candidate who doesn't even have her own page here." That is not criteria for inclusion. In fact, the fact that someone does not have an article may be due to many things. But what is being covered here is the candidate's video based on the Barton episode -- which is indeed noteworthy, as it is reflected in all of these RSs, and even has articles devoted to it, as it has become viral.
That is the test -- not the editor's subjective view, unsupported, of what is newsworthy or what is a "tabloid." We defer to the RSs view of what is noteworthy, not to any editor's view. Due to the editor's mischaracterization of the nature of the RSs, and misunderstanding that the RSs have to be from Texas, etc., I am reverting him. His basis for deleting RS supported text is clearly wrong. I would urge the editor, if he continues to disagree, after checking for example his assertions as to the "tabloid" nature of the sources, to either discuss it here or to bring it to a noticeboard, rather than edit-war. 2604:2000:E016:A700:E1F7:7C24:7E50:9FAA ( talk) 18:48, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
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I was under the impression that this nickname originated with his taking lots of campaign money from tobacco companies and then going to the House floor to deny that smoking had any health risks. 207.98.196.125 ( talk) 08:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
This section seems like it gives WP:UNDUE weight to this scandal. Obviously, the photos had a lasting effect on his career, so they are worth covering in some respect, but extensively quoting the explicit messages, naming all of the women they were sent to, and even the exact length of the sexually explicit video is really laying it on way too thick. I'm inclined to trim this down to the bare essentials: readers should understand that he had affairs, and he sent sexually explicit text messages and videos to three women. Those exchanges were leaked to the press. He resisted pressure to resign, but he chose not to run for re-election. Nblund talk 17:18, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
The only source for this is Barton's claim in his letters to Mann and others, but it makes little sense that a June 23, 2005 demand was promptecd by a February 2005 article. In any case, Barton's very close ally in climate denial, James Inhofe, had attacked the hockey stick in a February 10, 2005 talk for the George Marshall Institute (GMI), followed by the unusual February 14, 2005 front-page article in the Wall Street Journal. Did 2 obscure Canadian non-climate scientists arrange that, Washignton politicians? or The timing of the demand letters was much more likely set by the ongoing Phil Cooney scanda and upcoming energy bill plus the May 11, 2005 McIntyre&McKitricktalk for George Marshall Institute and Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) in Washington. The sequence of events is laid out in Strange Scholarship in the Wegman Report, p.28 and pp.30, Activities 07-09. Of course, that is not RS, but it cites original documents as sources, including fact that CEI's Myron Ebell had copies of the letters to scientists before the scientists got them. Anyway, the "prompted" statement here asserts a claim for which there is zero independent evidence and which makes no sense, and for which there is much evidence that the letters to scientists were simply part of an ongoing strategy to attack climate science. It is simply not believable that Barton was not talking to Inhofe in February. Anyway, I'd suggest just deleting this phrase in favor of just saying "Barton launched..." JohnMashey ( talk) 07:11, 29 November 2022 (UTC)